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Author Topic: Bp Fulton Sheen  (Read 619 times)

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Re: Bp Fulton Sheen
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 05:57:00 PM »

Even as a kid in more innocent times I knew there was something "off" about certain people

"Oowww the pain, the pain!!"  😆

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rKwwcCpa2Ag&pp=ygUiTG9zdCBpbiBzcGFjZSBvaCB0aGUgcGFpbiB0aGUgcGFpbg%3D%3D

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Bp Fulton Sheen
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 06:02:01 PM »
Look I know people get upset when I chime in on social issues like this, but what is the fascination?  Why is this supposed to be an interesting discussion?  It is more along the lines of sensationalism like the National Enquire.  I don't see how this information edifies any one.

Wouldn't it be better to just say he appeared to have unnatural tendencies and was friendly to socialist and communistic ideas?  And then discuss facts?  or talk about why you don't think he should be canonized?

So, the reason this is coming up beause the Conciliar sect beatified Sheen yesterday, and given Sheen's reputation from some quasi-Traditionalist staunch defender of the faith, it will factor into the deception that the Conciliar Church is Catholic, that it's OK.  Sheen became a flaming Moderniist, a veritable trailblazer for the religious indifferentism of Vatican II, so this would be yet another canonization that attempts to effectively canonize the Modernist Revolution.  Just like people expose the evils of Luther, including his personal life in order to discredit his heresies, and it's perfectly justified for those reasons, so too the more people might expose the truth of Sheen, the more it undermines their attempts to leverage Sheen to legitimize the Revolution.  We're not discussing some random individual here.  I've known a few people, including one priest, who himself ended up "credibly accused" of predating upon boys, who practically LOOKED identical to Sheen and had the same "mannerisms", and evidently met Sheen a few times.  But I'm not going to out his name here, since he's been dealt with and ... no one uses him to legitimize the Modernist Revolution.  But those who emote can't make distinctions like this.  Yes, detraction is normally a very bad thing, but it's predicated upon someone's right to a good name, but one does not have a right to that name if said name is being used to perpetrate evil, i.e. if you know that someone's a predator because you found something else, you'd have not only the right but even the obligation to make that public, to prevent harm, since they do not have a right to the good name to get away with harming someone.  Similarly, Sheen's right to a good name evaporated as soon as he started enthusiastically promoting the False New Religion, the very "Ape of the Church" that he claimed the Anti-Church would be.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Bp Fulton Sheen
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 06:06:28 PM »
"Oowww the pain, the pain!!"  😆

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rKwwcCpa2Ag&pp=ygUiTG9zdCBpbiBzcGFjZSBvaCB0aGUgcGFpbiB0aGUgcGFpbg%3D%3D

Ah, well ... I like the guy.  AND, despite what one might infer from the character he played, and portrayed in "over-the-top" manner, Jonathan hαɾɾιs was not gαy, though he was almost worse than gαy, Jєωιѕн.  :laugh1:

hαɾɾιs was married to the same woman, his High School sweetheart, for 64 years.

Offline ElwinRansom1970

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Re: Bp Fulton Sheen
« Reply #13 on: Today at 08:55:24 AM »
Ripperger is another good example. (NO orders so unreliable for exorcism, plus the Church was never public about these matters in such a manner as he is).

The doubtful NO Orders had NOTHING to do with the reliability of exorcism. The power to exorcise to tied to BAPTISM, not Orders. However, the lawful exercise of exorcism powers is dependent upon authorisation from the Church, which chooses in modern times to restrict the authorisation to persons ordained to the presbyterate, understanding that those consecrated to the episcopate possess habitual authorisation. Understand also, that the minor order of Exorcist pertains to the impartation of the minor exorcisms associated with the catechumenate and Baptism.

I am sorry to sidetrack this discussion, but that correction needs to be made.

Unreliable exorcisms in the Novus Ordo arise out of the weakened rites of exorcism found in the 1999 De Exorcismis et Supplicationibus Quibusdam, the new Order of Exorcism that replaced the previous Tridentine rites of major exorcism.

Re: Bp Fulton Sheen
« Reply #14 on: Today at 03:53:06 PM »
I see Fulton Sheen as a "silent communist".  I do wonder about Bella Dodd and Sheen.  I wonder if they put on a show.  Bella Dodd knew cardinals by name who were communist. Then Bella wants to be catholic? and Sheen will bring her the sacraments for her conversion.  I question the situation.

How does it go:  if you are a communist or of a secret society and you want out, is it not death?  This issue is eerie.

I ask this as a genuine question - why/how is he a silent communist? I don't know much about him, and a google search of him supporting communism turned up nothing, thus I ask here. He died many years before I was born, but everything I have seen lately (and there's been a lot of coverage because of the recent beatification) has implied that he was openly anti-communist, e.g. I've seen lots of clips of him talking about the "fundamental error of communism" and that it's a "scavenger of decaying civilisations," and more - all this in far stronger language than any modern leader has used against communism.