To clarify, I don't think the ban is a blanket one.  It's not like people are turned away every week.  I've heard of feeneyites being denied and also other random people who openly disagreed with SGG on this or that.  I think the "una cuм" was used as a catch-all explanation from SGG clerics to the parishioners, to explain what happened after the fact.  The point being, the SGG knew the Trads that they turned away.

The Cincy area has 3 different chapels (sspx, Fr Jenkins, +Dolan/Fr Cekada) being within 30-40 minutes of one another, all with very different Trad flavors.  The controversy arises when the youngsters start dating from different chapels, because then the different clerics have to "lay down the law" on a) feenyism, b) sedevacantism, c) una cuм, d) pro-rome, e) not switching chapels, f) home school vs chapel school, g) etc etc.

SGG is definitely wrong in their "turf war" but so is the sspx and Fr Jenkins.  All 3 groups have contributed to the nonsense, conflict and family turmoil.  There are many, many stories where a couple got married at one of the chapels, and one of the spouses' families won't speak to them.  The clerics condone and contribute to these tragedies.  It's still going on.

                       
                        It could be the biggest Trad Battlefield in North America?

And yes, there was an SSPX chapel in Miami. It was willed to the SSPX by an independent priest who died prematurely. The SSPX sold off the chapel late last year. The small chapel was packed every Sunday.

Interesting.  I guess they got quite a sum for the property.

Interesting.  I guess they got quite a sum for the property.

So sad. That was a beautiful chapel. 

So question for any who might know, who made Father Kelly a Bishop?

Retired bishop Alfred Mendez of Arecibo, Puerto Rico, who was consecrated in 1960:

https://congregationofstpiusv.com/about-us/bishop-clarence-kelly/

And yes, there was an SSPX chapel in Miami. It was willed to the SSPX by an independent priest who died prematurely. The SSPX sold off the chapel late last year. The small chapel was packed every Sunday.

What was the name of this chapel?  I want to bring this to the attention of my local independent priest, Father Leo Carley.  He's getting into his late 80s (pre-V2 ordained) but still remarkably taking care of the chapel.  So I was on his Board of Trustees a few years ago.  At one point Father decided, against my advice (I spoke up during the meetings) to will his chapel and school to SSPX (plus he owns a couple nice homes adjacent to it and a large amount of land next to a ritzy country club with expensive homes).  Plus he has a lot of cash savings.  I warned Father that given the proximity of St. Peregrine in Richfield, OH ... which the SSPX just built out to the tune of a couple million dollars, that it's inevitable that the SSPX would sell off his chapel (Immaculate Heart of Mary) to further bankroll the St. Peregrine build-out.  He seemed reluctant because of what I said, but just said, "What other choice do I have to ensure the future of the chapel for the faithful?"  So he asked the Trustees to sign, but I politely and respectfully resigned instead of signing.

I could go back to him with the example of this chapel and see if he might be interested in going more along the Resistance lines.  I think he really does fit better with the Resistance, but he would need some assurances that his chapel would be taken care of.  In his rhetoric, Father almost sounds sedevacantist and in some cases is even to the right of the Resistance (he's convinced that the New Mass is outright invalid and not just doubtful).  He excoriated a hospital chaplain who tried to bring Communion to one of his chapel members for bringing his "idolatrous wafer".  So he is NOT of a neo-SSPX mindset.

In any case, this case in Miami might give me more ammunition to persuade him to go in some other direction than SSPX.

Father has had a few run-ins with SSPX.  About 3 years ago now, Father broke his hip and needed a replacement.  SSPX called and said they might be able to get a late afternoon Mass in on Christmas Day.  Father was very upset, and threatened to roll back the will.  So, we were surprised to see Bishop Tissier walk out on Christmas morning for the usual 9AM Mass.

More recently, the SSPX tried to extort $500,000 from Father Carley, telling him that if he wanted to have the SSPX service his chapel, he would have to pay for half of the cost of the priory they were building at St. Peregrine.  I would bet every dollar I had that the second Father Carley passes away, they'll take all the chapel assets, including the cash, sell all the real estate, just to bankroll that ill-conceived project at St. Peregrine.  Also, about 13 years ago, when Fr. Libietis was at St. Peregrine, he raised hundreds of thousands for a new chapel project, and that money evaporated, undoubtedly funnelled to the new seminary project.  So the people there at St. Peregrine who contributed all that money and worked hard at fundraisers were basically robbed.  These are very grave things the SSPX has done, and yet they feel no quamls of conscience ripping off the assets of Catholic faithful.  I find it downright disgusting.

What was the name of this chapel?  I want to bring this to the attention of my local independent priest, Father Leo Carley.  He's getting into his late 80s (pre-V2 ordained) but still remarkably taking care of the chapel.  So I was on his Board of Trustees a few years ago.  At one point Father decided, against my advice (I spoke up during the meetings) to will his chapel and school to SSPX (plus he owns a couple nice homes adjacent to it and a large amount of land next to a ritzy country club with expensive homes).  Plus he has a lot of cash savings.  I warned Father that given the proximity of St. Peregrine in Richfield, OH ... which the SSPX just built out to the tune of a couple million dollars, that it's inevitable that the SSPX would sell off his chapel (Immaculate Heart of Mary) to further bankroll the St. Peregrine build-out.  He seemed reluctant because of what I said, but just said, "What other choice do I have to ensure the future of the chapel for the faithful?"  So he asked the Trustees to sign, but I politely and respectfully resigned instead of signing.

I could go back to him with the example of this chapel and see if he might be interested in going more along the Resistance lines.  I think he really does fit better with the Resistance, but he would need some assurances that his chapel would be taken care of.  In his rhetoric, Father almost sounds sedevacantist and in some cases is even to the right of the Resistance (he's convinced that the New Mass is outright invalid and not just doubtful).  He excoriated a hospital chaplain who tried to bring Communion to one of his chapel members for bringing his "idolatrous wafer".  So he is NOT of a neo-SSPX mindset.

In any case, this case in Miami might give me more ammunition to persuade him to go in some other direction than SSPX.

Father has had a few run-ins with SSPX.  About 3 years ago now, Father broke his hip and needed a replacement.  SSPX called and said they might be able to get a late afternoon Mass in on Christmas Day.  Father was very upset, and threatened to roll back the will.  So, we were surprised to see Bishop Tissier walk out on Christmas morning for the usual 9AM Mass.

More recently, the SSPX tried to extort $500,000 from Father Carley, telling him that if he wanted to have the SSPX service his chapel, he would have to pay for half of the cost of the priory they were building at St. Peregrine.  I would bet every dollar I had that the second Father Carley passes away, they'll take all the chapel assets, including the cash, sell all the real estate, just to bankroll that ill-conceived project at St. Peregrine.  Also, about 13 years ago, when Fr. Libietis was at St. Peregrine, he raised hundreds of thousands for a new chapel project, and that money evaporated, undoubtedly funnelled to the new seminary project.  So the people there at St. Peregrine who contributed all that money and worked hard at fundraisers were basically robbed.  These are very grave things the SSPX has done, and yet they feel no quamls of conscience ripping off the assets of Catholic faithful.  I find it downright disgusting.

Lads, it was called the Shrine of St. Philomena. It was willed to the SPPX by Fr. Timothy Hopkins after he unexpectedly died of a gunshot wound. He was only in his mid-fifties and a great priest.

I remember he would sleep in the chapel because he had nowhere else to go until he could finally pay off the chapel. I have posted a link with the PDF(click the English version before they take it down) that explains the entire fiasco.

The ironies of ironies are that Fr. Hopkins had a long-time feud with the local Episcopalians in the area. They aggressively tried to steal parishioners from his chapel and convert them to Protestantism. Guess who the SSPX sold the chapel to? That’s right; the same Episcopalians that for almost 30 years were trying to steal parishioners---All for $670,000. This deserves its own thread because it is such a scandal. Photos were posted as well. Maybe, others who attended the Shine will comment.

https://florida.sspx.org/en/philomena-shrine/Miami

Correction I said Epicolians in my previous post; it's Pentecostal.

I am glad I go to CMRI chapels for Mass. No trad organization is 100% ideal but I keep quiet at the chapel and on the grounds and I do fine. If I really had to I would go to Eastern and have considered going to SSPX (I could go to Mass a few times a week extra if I did this so it is a serious consideration) but the collection plate bothered me. I know individual priests do not will these kinds of atrocious dealings. Should I just supply a priest with some consumables that the chapel would need (toilet paper/paper towels or something like that) in proportion to what I'd otherwise give or would that be inappropriate?