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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
« Reply #105 on: April 30, 2022, 07:29:39 AM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on April 29, 2022, 07:57:42 PM
    He’s a total joke. 

    Bishop Williamson made public repentance for ever having ordained him.

    Conveniently became sede just after his ordination.

    Wanted a coat of arms even as a simple priest.

    Concerned for his own glory.

    Bishop Williamson's  "repentance" was due to the fact that he became a sedevacantist.  I see a lot of rash judgment here coming from your emotional contempt for sedevacantism.  Somehow you can read his soul and claim that he was "concerned for his own glory."  Your disagreement with sedevacantism doesn't entitle you to slander the man.
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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #106 on: April 30, 2022, 07:32:11 AM »
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    • Quote from: Clarinha on April 29, 2022, 06:15:20 PM
    Wow. All the speculations here. Y’all are way out of the loop. Bishop Rodrigo da Silva, consecrated last feast of St. Michael will be the bishop performing the fueneral
    Rites. He began his travels today.

    Well, the speculation speaks volumes about the state of political relations between the groups.  Normally you'd expect one of the bishops who had known Bishop Dolan for years to offer the Requiem.  And the speculation seemed correct.  Several of us felt it would be the Brazilian IF he could get up here in time.

    SGG likely rejected +Sanborn and likely +Neville on account of sedeprivationism.  +Sanborn would have been the most appropriate candidate, since he has known Bishop Dolan from the early days and they very worked closely together for some time.
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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #107 on: April 30, 2022, 07:40:38 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on April 30, 2022, 07:32:11 AM
    Well, the speculation speaks volumes about the state of political relations between the groups.  Normally you'd expect one of the bishops who had known Bishop Dolan for years to offer the Requiem.  And the speculation seemed correct.  Several of us felt it would be the Brazilian IF he could get up here in time.

    SGG likely rejected +Sanborn and likely +Neville on account of sedeprivationism.  +Sanborn would have been the most appropriate candidate, since he has known Bishop Dolan from the early days and they very worked closely together for some time.
    I think we shouldn't say "SGG rejected" as if the clergy made the decision.  I suspect that the Bishop himself made arrangements for the Brazilian bishop shortly after he consecrated him 7 months ago.
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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #108 on: April 30, 2022, 07:49:12 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on April 30, 2022, 07:40:38 AM
    I think we shouldn't say "SGG rejected" as if the clergy made the decision.  I suspect that the Bishop himself made arrangements for the Brazilian bishop shortly after he consecrated him 7 months ago.

    I'd be surprised if Bishop Dolan himself made these arrangements, as I doubt he expected to pass away so soon thereafter.
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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #109 on: April 30, 2022, 07:52:53 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on April 30, 2022, 07:49:12 AM
    I'd be surprised if Bishop Dolan himself made these arrangements, as I doubt he expected to pass away so soon thereafter.
    Maybe not, but it's not entirely out of the question given Father Cekada's death only a year earlier.  At the very least, it may have been well known among the clergy there what his wishes were if not formally docuмented yet.
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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #110 on: April 30, 2022, 07:57:37 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on April 30, 2022, 07:52:53 AM
    Maybe not, but it's not entirely out of the question given Father Cekada's death only a year earlier.  At the very least, it may have been well known among the clergy there what his wishes were if not formally docuмented yet.

    I wonder if he made any arrangements for a bishop to be consecrated to replace him at SGG.  Perhaps the Brazilian bishop might perform a consecration while he's up here anyway for the funeral.  I'm not sure that SGG has any continuing working relationships with any bishops at this time.
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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #111 on: April 30, 2022, 09:56:11 AM »
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    Suffice it to say, sgg.org/cult has turned away more than most may realize, and for indefensible reasons.
    Agree.  I have family who live in the Cincy area and there are many, many stories (going back 10+ years) where "una cuм" Trads were not given Communion.  For those who live in the area, it's fairly common knowledge.
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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #112 on: April 30, 2022, 10:08:44 AM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on April 29, 2022, 07:57:42 PM
    He’s a total joke. 

    Bishop Williamson made public repentance for ever having ordained him.

    Conveniently became sede just after his ordination.

    Wanted a coat of arms even as a simple priest.

    Concerned for his own glory.

    Interesting you mentioned a Coat of Arms ?

    I read some discussion about that in the past?

    +W's Coat of Arms

    Was it ever "put-to-bed" or effectively rebutted ?

    If so, how?





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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #113 on: April 30, 2022, 10:23:25 AM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on April 30, 2022, 09:56:11 AM
    Agree.  I have family who live in the Cincy area and there are many, many stories (going back 10+ years) where "una cuм" Trads were not given Communion.  For those who live in the area, it's fairly common knowledge.
    I personally know a family from central OH that had been attending SGG for many, many years. They were well known to both priests. But three years ago + D denied their two little girls making their First Holy Communions at SGG because mom and dad sometimes went to SSPX in KY where they have family. 
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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #114 on: April 30, 2022, 10:28:11 AM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on April 29, 2022, 06:44:02 PM
    Maybe on paper, but not in the real world. Trad priests in general very rarely exclude people from the sacraments over a disagreement on issues related to the crisis in the Church. Sedevacantists are no exception to that rule. Bp. Sanborn has a public statement that he will not give the sacraments to people who attend an una cuм Mass in his bulletin, but that's about the only exception I can think of (again, excluding the SSPV from all of these general statements).
    That has never been in a MHTS bulletin that I have ever seen. The only thing in the bulletin is their statement that Feeneyites are barred from receiving sacraments at MHTS.

    Bp. Sanborn's stance on una cuм is well known but I have never seen in print or hear him say that people who go una cuм Masses are barred from receiving sacraments at MHTS. He definitely would say that they should not be going to an una cuм Mass and then coming to MHTS, but I have never heard they are banned from the sacraments absolutely. 
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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #115 on: April 30, 2022, 10:53:33 AM »
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    • Quote from: Motorede on April 30, 2022, 10:23:25 AM
    I personally know a family from central OH that had been attending SGG for many, many years. They were well known to both priests. But three years ago + D denied their two little girls making their First Holy Communions at SGG because mom and dad sometimes went to SSPX in KY where they have family.

    And the SSPX's sins?  

    I suppose it was because "Francis" is uttered in their 1962 Mass Canon  :confused:

    Or was because of the SSPX's acceptance of Bugnini's and the (2) Jєω-popes butchering of Holy Week?

    Or could have been... their recognition of newChurch jurisdiction, and the authority of the anti-pope Jєω, Bergolio?

    Or their use of zionist monies from Max Krah and others (while still $pumping their faithful) to build $100 million dollar structures?

    Maybe... it's because of their old practice (against Canon Law) of sacking and abandoning SSPX priests?

    How about the 43 year old complaint of their acceptance and cover-up of of invalid orders?

    Could it have been their theology of (4) baptisms, including Rahner's universal salvation as the cause?

    But then,... maybe their recent immoral acceptance of the death vax was the last straw for Bishop Dolan?

    Oh I know.. it was the SSPX's embrace and promotion of evolutionary theory, Heliocentrism and other fake sciences... as taught by Fr. Paul Robinson?

    Let me think.. there's got to be more reasons why Bishop Dolan would do such a horrible thing...     :facepalm:


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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #116 on: April 30, 2022, 10:56:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mysterium Fidei on April 30, 2022, 10:28:11 AM
    The only thing in the bulletin is their statement that Feeneyites are barred from receiving sacraments at MHTS.

    :facepalm: of course they are ... the one great heresy of our times.

    Bishop Sanborn needs to rethink that whole thing.  In a debate some time ago, Dr. Fastiggi took him to task over his statement that non-Catholics could be saved while claiming that V2 ecclesiology is heretical.

    MAJOR:  No Salvation Outside the Church.
    MINOR:  Non-Catholics can be saved.
    CONCLUSION:  Catholic Church includes non-Catholics. [=V2 ecclesiology which +Sanborn claims is heretical.]
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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #117 on: April 30, 2022, 11:07:12 AM »
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    • Nope, Incred, it was as inferred in my post. +D to the parents: They put Francis' name in the Canon. 
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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #118 on: April 30, 2022, 11:08:36 AM »
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    • +Sanborn has stated on True Restoration radio that he will not give Holy Communion to those that he knows attend the SSPX Masses. I heard it from his own mouth.
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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #119 on: April 30, 2022, 11:12:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on April 30, 2022, 10:56:47 AM
    :facepalm: of course they are ... the one great heresy of our times.

    Bishop Sanborn needs to rethink that whole thing.  In a debate some time ago, Dr. Fastiggi took him to task over his statement that non-Catholics could be saved while claiming that V2 ecclesiology is heretical.

    MAJOR:  No Salvation Outside the Church.
    MINOR:  Non-Catholics can be saved.
    CONCLUSION:  Catholic Church includes non-Catholics. [=V2 ecclesiology which +Sanborn claims is heretical.]
    Agreed. There is no difference in kind between the trad clergy and the VII ecclesiology, only degree.
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