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Offline SimpleMan

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Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
« Reply #60 on: April 28, 2022, 01:30:52 PM »
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  • If he's got those connections then he'd also know how anti jab he was.....

    They are doing an autopsy.  Unless those results have been communicated then no one knows for sure that he died of a heart attack.

    Listen..outside of his Thuc position I have nothing but praise for Fr Jenkins.  I have enjoyed his shows and I believe he's one of our best priests. However his comments regarding Bishop Dolan's death were ...less than stellar.
    Not trying to be cute or pedantic, but unless someone is vaporized instantly with a nuclear blast or some such, all deaths are heart attacks.

    People die suddenly at all different ages, for all different reasons.  I have had several high school classmates who have died.  Sometimes you get in your 30s or 40s, and boom! - you're gone.  The part of the country I'm from, drug abuse is a lifestyle accessory for many, and that'll do it too.


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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #61 on: April 28, 2022, 02:38:14 PM »
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  • I doubt that Father Jenkins kept up with all of Bishop Dolan's various theological positions or statements.  He's probaby too busy himself to keep up with everything every priest out there thinks or says about some subject ... unless somehow it impacts his own chapels.
    My point was if he knows he has a heart attack because he's "well connected" as you suggested earlier, then those connections should also know or could have easily found out what his position was on the jab. 

    Sorry, I'm not buying the ignorance excuse. And if his death doesn't impact his own chapels somehow, he should have kept quiet until he had all the facts.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #62 on: April 28, 2022, 03:13:27 PM »
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  • The first thought that crossed my mind was that Bishop Dolan was murdered.

    Why?

    Because he’s been “on-the-money” about covid.  He also accelerated his ordination schedule, knowing the general genocide threat to the remnant faithful.

    In other words, he was doing what trad Bishops should be doing: 

    Speaking-out, educating his flock and getting them a secure means for the Sacraments!

    Why is it that most trad Bishops have become passive or are in the stealth mode?

    This week, the Church honored it’s 3rd martyr Pope St. Cletus, who gave it all for his sheep.

    More than ever, we need more selfless Bishops who are men of spiritual action.
    It wasn't my first thought, but I admit the thought had crossed my mind too, and I don't typically go there.

    As for the bolded?  Good question.  Perhaps it should have its own thread.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #63 on: April 28, 2022, 03:37:29 PM »
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  • My point was if he knows he has a heart attack because he's "well connected" as you suggested earlier, then those connections should also know or could have easily found out what his position was on the jab. 

    Sorry, I'm not buying the ignorance excuse. And if his death doesn't impact his own chapels somehow, he should have kept quiet until he had all the facts.

    Well, charity requires that we put the best possible interpretations on other people's actions.  And there's a difference between learning about a dramatic even such as Bishop Dolan's death and keeping up with the day to day soap opera at all other chapels when you're busy with your own.  He's well connected enough to hear about the heart attack without necessarily being in constant contact with people to know what Bishop Dolan said about the jab.  It's not that difficult to believe.

    I know people at other chapels where if something dramatic happened, I could call them to ask, but I don't keep in regular contact with them and don't know where their priests stand on various issues.

    And I already said that Father Jenkins made a mistake in speculating publicly about it, so I'm not sure why you're directing that comment to me.

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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #64 on: April 28, 2022, 04:26:18 PM »
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  • You have to feel bad for the Protestant converts... They leave one unstable place to end up in another.
    I've been thinking about this for two days. Perhaps our God has given us civil-warring traditionalists a shot across the bow. I think the civil-warring clergy have received a Divine warning that God is fed up with them. The whole world is falling apart and all our clergy do is fling paper airplanes at each other. It is impossible that Fr. Jenkins does not know about the absolute and uncategorical stance of BISHOP Dolan; for Bishop Dolan has been the one and only traditionalist clergyman to call the vaccine spade a filthy, dirty mortal sin. That was controversial, and Fr. Jenkins feeds on controversy. Furthermore Bp. Dolan was preaching against the vaccine for two straight years. It's impossible that Fr. Jenkins doesn't know this. 

    What Fr. Jenkins did in his broadcast is reprehensible. And normally I like him and enjoy his show. But it was truly below the belt Tuesday night. He owes Bp. Dolan (RIP) and SGG an apology.


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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #65 on: April 28, 2022, 04:38:04 PM »
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  • I'll say one other thing. I literally winced when I heard what Fr. Jenkins said. My gut reaction was that Bp. Dolan's good name and reputation were being smeared. That man worked so hard to convince people not to believe the hoax and not to take the jab. In a sense, he placed his entire priesthood on the line, and therefore his own good name and reputation. 

    Fr. Jenkins has a duty in justice to repair; and I am going to confide in his well known integrity, that when this is brought to his attention, he will make a public correction, which is all we can ask from him. 

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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #66 on: April 28, 2022, 05:01:12 PM »
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  • What Fr. Jenkins did in his broadcast is reprehensible. And normally I like him and enjoy his show. But it was truly below the belt Tuesday night. He owes Bp. Dolan (RIP) and SGG an apology.

    Ironically, the main topic for the show was detraction and calumny.

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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #67 on: April 28, 2022, 05:45:23 PM »
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  • I'll say one other thing. I literally winced when I heard what Fr. Jenkins said. My gut reaction was that Bp. Dolan's good name and reputation were being smeared. That man worked so hard to convince people not to believe the hoax and not to take the jab. In a sense, he placed his entire priesthood on the line, and therefore his own good name and reputation.

    Fr. Jenkins has a duty in justice to repair; and I am going to confide in his well known integrity, that when this is brought to his attention, he will make a public correction, which is all we can ask from him.

    I agree. Sadly this is too often seen in many Trad circles. The lack of charity is sometimes incredible, from calumny to closing chapels, lying to the flock stealing their money, and sɛҳuąƖ abuse. It's sad.


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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #68 on: April 28, 2022, 05:59:06 PM »
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  • I've been thinking about this for two days. Perhaps our God has given us civil-warring traditionalists a shot across the bow. I think the civil-warring clergy have received a Divine warning that God is fed up with them. The whole world is falling apart and all our clergy do is fling paper airplanes at each other. It is impossible that Fr. Jenkins does not know about the absolute and uncategorical stance of BISHOP Dolan; for Bishop Dolan has been the one and only traditionalist clergyman to call the vaccine spade a filthy, dirty mortal sin. That was controversial, and Fr. Jenkins feeds on controversy. Furthermore Bp. Dolan was preaching against the vaccine for two straight years. It's impossible that Fr. Jenkins doesn't know this.

    What Fr. Jenkins did in his broadcast is reprehensible. And normally I like him and enjoy his show. But it was truly below the belt Tuesday night. He owes Bp. Dolan (RIP) and SGG an apology.
    And....if I'm remembering correctly....Fr Jenkins, at least at one time, was not completely against the jab.  Yeah, the more I think on this, the more angry I get.

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #69 on: April 28, 2022, 06:04:29 PM »
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  • And....if I'm remembering correctly....Fr Jenkins, at least at one time, was not completely against the jab.  Yeah, the more I think on this, the more angry I get.
    It was also mere hours after he died. There is speaking ill of the dead and then there's that.
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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #70 on: April 28, 2022, 06:05:25 PM »
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  • I think many traditional priests are going to end up in hell. The world is falling into the abyss, and they won't cooperate to make the sacrament available to the faithful. This is especially true of the Neo-SSPX. Who are busy building monuments, totally oblivious to the situation?


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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #71 on: April 28, 2022, 06:29:42 PM »
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  • For some reason I associate "Credamus omni tempore" and "Deus det nobis suam pacem", which are from the Veni Creator and the prayers at meals, with prayers for the deceased, etc.




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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #72 on: April 28, 2022, 07:49:11 PM »
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  • I think many traditional priests are going to end up in hell. The world is falling into the abyss, and they won't cooperate to make the sacrament available to the faithful. This is especially true of the Neo-SSPX. Who are busy building monuments, totally oblivious to the situation?
    I won't go as far as to say the individual priests of the Neo-SSPX are wholly ignorant of the needs of the faithful, but it's clear that the mission has shifted to one of complacency with Rome. We've discussed it on here before, but they really should alter the structure of the Society to assign priests to specific areas, like a parish priest, rather than having them clustered in one central location and traveling all over. Really limiting their availability.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #73 on: April 28, 2022, 08:32:07 PM »
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  • While they're entitled to their opinion, I felt that they had crossed the line over into being uncharitable.  I used to help with the production of "What Catholics Believe" (when it was on cable TV) ... and also answered phone calls from viewers during the show.  But they had one episode in which they were very uncharitably ridiculing Bishop McKenna, making fun of some of the exorcisms he had performed, and that's when I decided I didn't really feel at home there.  I also feel that they're crossing a line in terms of trying to impose their opinion of the +Thuc line and CMRI onto the consciences of others.  They could warn people that they thought they were jeopardizing their souls by receiving Sacraments from the +Thuc line, and try to persuade them, but that's as far as they can go.  They have no authority to bind consciences.

    I'm surprised he even referred to him as "Father" Dolan, since the SSPV have long promoted the "One Hand Dan" nonsense, but I think that may have been more Bishop Kelly.  Bishop Kelly would conditionally confirm people who had been confirmed by Bishop Williamson, who had been part of the same 1976 "one-handed" ordination class.

    Apart from that, however, I have nothing but praise for Father Jenkins as a priest.  He visited my dying brother to hear his Confession even though he had never attended his chapel there.
    God Bless you Lad, I appreciate your consistency here. I heard one ep where Fr. Jenkins called +Sanborn "Father" and it left a bad taste. I'm not even going to bother listening to the latest ep, they've lost a listener until Father Jenkins walks this back (I think he will, as I believe he is a Catholic). I sincerely hope the stupid Thuc controversy will drop after +Kelly is dead (I am not wishing death on him or anything of the sort, I just sincerely hope this is old-man drama that will die with the 9 and everyone moves on afterward) because this, like dogmatic anti una-cuм, is diabolical and is not helping anyone. The SSPV people I talk to will pray with Thuc line friends, I don't think any of the laity want this old-man drama. 

    I disagree with +Dolan on a lot of positions but he has been one of the warriors for God in this deception, simple as. He got sacraments to people when they actually needed them and did not capitulate on the vaccine or other matters and called a novena that potentially changed the course of history.  We absolutely need an autopsy, +Dolan was on the assuredly on the radar. 

    I won't go as far as to say the individual priests of the Neo-SSPX are wholly ignorant of the needs of the faithful, but it's clear that the mission has shifted to one of complacency with Rome. We've discussed it on here before, but they really should alter the structure of the Society to assign priests to specific areas, like a parish priest, rather than having them clustered in one central location and traveling all over. Really limiting their availability.
    During the COVID hoax this created a sacramental crisis as well: Priests unable to travel long distances and being cut-off from laity they serve. The window of opportunity for giving EU is so small. Getting a priest into a nursing home on minute's notice because one person will allow someone in the building etc, it's just not right and I imagine individual priests aren't a fan of this.
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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #74 on: April 28, 2022, 09:04:00 PM »
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  • Pontifical???

    Who’s the bishop?

    Odd he isn’t named.
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