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Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
« Reply #45 on: April 28, 2022, 05:28:31 AM »
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  • Wouldn't you think there'd be a little class among the warring trad factions, to hold one's tongue, before we bury our Holy religious ? :facepalm:


    On this forum, we prayed a 54-Day Novena to Our Lady of Pompeii for an intention, Bishop Dolan had formulated:

    "For the families of all nations, torn apart by the wounds of sin, to be spared from the communist covid revolution."


    No trad talking head, no trad Bishop in the world, had the discernment to pen such a truthful invocation.

    And it worked. Recall that the covid nonsense started loosening significantly right after the novena ended and the omicron variant suddenly emerged to give most people natural immunity. I don't believe in coincidence.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #46 on: April 28, 2022, 06:52:45 AM »
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  • Yes, I listened to that as well.  Fr Jenkins clearly was not aware of the Bishop's staunch anti-jab position.  He should have checked on that and reported that before suggesting that he might have died from the jab.

    And PS....no one knows it was a heart attack.

    Well, perhaps Father Jenkins does have some information that it was a heart attack.  He's probably well connected with varous priests he would know.  It certainly makes sense given how sudden it was and that Bishop Dolan was Tweeting on the day he passed away.  So I wouldn't say that "no one" knows.  I'm sure that some people do know.

    As for their position on the CMRI and the Thuc line, that was the main reason I stopped associating with the SSPV many years back.  While they're entitled to their opinion, I felt that they had crossed the line over into being uncharitable.  I used to help with the production of "What Catholics Believe" (when it was on cable TV) ... and also answered phone calls from viewers during the show.  But they had one episode in which they were very uncharitably ridiculing Bishop McKenna, making fun of some of the exorcisms he had performed, and that's when I decided I didn't really feel at home there.  I also feel that they're crossing a line in terms of trying to impose their opinion of the +Thuc line and CMRI onto the consciences of others.  They could warn people that they thought they were jeopardizing their souls by receiving Sacraments from the +Thuc line, and try to persuade them, but that's as far as they can go.  They have no authority to bind consciences.

    I'm surprised he even referred to him as "Father" Dolan, since the SSPV have long promoted the "One Hand Dan" nonsense, but I think that may have been more Bishop Kelly.  Bishop Kelly would conditionally confirm people who had been confirmed by Bishop Williamson, who had been part of the same 1976 "one-handed" ordination class.

    Apart from that, however, I have nothing but praise for Father Jenkins as a priest.  He visited my dying brother to hear his Confession even though he had never attended his chapel there.


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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #47 on: April 28, 2022, 10:03:32 AM »
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  • He could have died from a heart attack, but i'd be shocked if he got the jab.  That would make no sense whatsoever.  +Dolan has been against covid since the get-go in 2020.  Fr Jenkins' chapel is less than 30 minutes away from +Dolan's chapel...why would he make such a comment?  The mystery of Trad cινιℓ ωαrs will never cease to amaze me...

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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #48 on: April 28, 2022, 10:25:28 AM »
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  • He could have died from a heart attack, but i'd be shocked if he got the jab.  That would make no sense whatsoever.  +Dolan has been against covid since the get-go in 2020.  Fr Jenkins' chapel is less than 30 minutes away from +Dolan's chapel...why would he make such a comment?  The mystery of Trad cινιℓ ωαrs will never cease to amaze me...
    You have to feel bad for the Protestant converts... They leave one unstable place to end up in another.
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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #49 on: April 28, 2022, 11:18:13 AM »
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  • He could have died from a heart attack, but i'd be shocked if he got the jab.

    Well, he was 70 years old, and it's not unheard-of for 70-year-olds to have heart attacks.  It's not like a 25-year-old top-tier athlete dropping dead of a sudden heart attack.  I knew a guy in his mid-40s who had a heart attack ... who didn't appear to be in terrible shape.  I think that the public speculation by Father Jenkins that it may be jab-related simply because it was (likely) a heart attack is rather irresponsible ... especiall given that the topic of that broadcast dealt with detraction and calumny.


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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #50 on: April 28, 2022, 11:22:05 AM »
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  • Fr Jenkins' chapel is less than 30 minutes away from +Dolan's chapel...why would he make such a comment?  The mystery of Trad cινιℓ ωαrs will never cease to amaze me...

    I don't think it was said with hostile intent.  It sounded just as if he was thinking out loud.  I've heard from my mother, who attends Father Jenkins' chapel in Parma, OH, that quite a few people have died of jab-related causes down at his chapel and academy in Cincinnati, despite his preaching against it.  So perhaps it was just at the front of his mind, and he made a mistake by speculating out loud about it.  Generally, whenever I hear of someone dying of a heart attack these days, my mind also immediately turns to wondering whether the person had received the jab.  Father simply made a mistake by thinking out loud about it.

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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #51 on: April 28, 2022, 11:40:09 AM »
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    I don't think it was said with hostile intent.
    I hope not...but with him calling Bishop Dolan, "Father", one has to wonder.

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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #52 on: April 28, 2022, 11:49:56 AM »
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  • Well, perhaps Father Jenkins does have some information that it was a heart attack.  He's probably well connected with varous priests he would know.  It certainly makes sense given how sudden it was and that Bishop Dolan was Tweeting on the day he passed away.  So I wouldn't say that "no one" knows.  I'm sure that some people do know.

    As for their position on the CMRI and the Thuc line, that was the main reason I stopped associating with the SSPV many years back.  While they're entitled to their opinion, I felt that they had crossed the line over into being uncharitable.  I used to help with the production of "What Catholics Believe" (when it was on cable TV) ... and also answered phone calls from viewers during the show.  But they had one episode in which they were very uncharitably ridiculing Bishop McKenna, making fun of some of the exorcisms he had performed, and that's when I decided I didn't really feel at home there.  I also feel that they're crossing a line in terms of trying to impose their opinion of the +Thuc line and CMRI onto the consciences of others.  They could warn people that they thought they were jeopardizing their souls by receiving Sacraments from the +Thuc line, and try to persuade them, but that's as far as they can go.  They have no authority to bind consciences.

    I'm surprised he even referred to him as "Father" Dolan, since the SSPV have long promoted the "One Hand Dan" nonsense, but I think that may have been more Bishop Kelly.  Bishop Kelly would conditionally confirm people who had been confirmed by Bishop Williamson, who had been part of the same 1976 "one-handed" ordination class.

    Apart from that, however, I have nothing but praise for Father Jenkins as a priest.  He visited my dying brother to hear his Confession even though he had never attended his chapel there.
    If he's got those connections then he'd also know how anti jab he was.....

    They are doing an autopsy.  Unless those results have been communicated then no one knows for sure that he died of a heart attack.

    Listen..outside of his Thuc position I have nothing but praise for Fr Jenkins.  I have enjoyed his shows and I believe he's one of our best priests. However his comments regarding Bishop Dolan's death were ...less than stellar.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #53 on: April 28, 2022, 11:53:33 AM »
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  • Well, he was 70 years old, and it's not unheard-of for 70-year-olds to have heart attacks.  It's not like a 25-year-old top-tier athlete dropping dead of a sudden heart attack.  I knew a guy in his mid-40s who had a heart attack ... who didn't appear to be in terrible shape.  I think that the public speculation by Father Jenkins that it may be jab-related simply because it was (likely) a heart attack is rather irresponsible ... especiall given that the topic of that broadcast dealt with detraction and calumny.
    Agree 100%. 
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #54 on: April 28, 2022, 11:59:08 AM »
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  • If he's got those connections then he'd also know how anti jab he was.....

    I doubt that Father Jenkins kept up with all of Bishop Dolan's various theological positions or statements.  He's probaby too busy himself to keep up with everything every priest out there thinks or says about some subject ... unless somehow it impacts his own chapels.

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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #55 on: April 28, 2022, 12:07:19 PM »
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  • You have to feel bad for the Protestant converts... They leave one unstable place to end up in another.

    Yeah, how to explain the Novus ordo mass mania schism and the internecine trad wars to them :facepalm:


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #56 on: April 28, 2022, 12:13:40 PM »
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  • Yeah, how to explain the Novus ordo mass mania schism and the internecine trad wars to them :facepalm:
    As a convert from atheism followed by perennialism, I have my days where I wonder at just what I got myself into :laugh1:

    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

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    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #57 on: April 28, 2022, 12:23:09 PM »
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  • Agree 100%.

    The first thought that crossed my mind was that Bishop Dolan was murdered.

    Why?

    Because he’s been “on-the-money” about covid.  He also accelerated his ordination schedule, knowing the general genocide threat to the remnant faithful.

    In other words, he was doing what trad Bishops should be doing:  

    Speaking-out, educating his flock and getting them a secure means for the Sacraments!

    Why is it that most trad Bishops have become passive or are in the stealth mode?

    This week, the Church honored it’s 3rd martyr Pope St. Cletus, who gave it all for his sheep.

    More than ever, we need more selfless Bishops who are men of spiritual action.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #58 on: April 28, 2022, 12:44:28 PM »
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  • Because he’s been “on-the-money” about covid.  He also accelerated his ordination schedule, knowing the general genocide threat to the remnant faithful.

    In other words, he was doing what trad Bishops should be doing: 

    Speaking-out, educating his flock and getting them a secure means for the Sacraments!

    Right.  I think we're nearing times when public Masses will not be available and we'll be in catacombs mode.  For all we know, they'll round up all the known priests, so it wouldn't be a bad idea to have an underground network.  We know that this is ultimately a Satanic plot and they desire more than anything the loss of souls, so I'm sure that depriving the faithful of Sacraments is toward the top of their agenda.  They piloted that earlier in closing down all the churches, where many of the faithful missed Easter Sunday due to the restrictions.

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    Re: Bp Daniel Dolan has died
    « Reply #59 on: April 28, 2022, 01:16:59 PM »
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  • Right.  I think we're nearing times when public Masses will not be available and we'll be in catacombs mode.  For all we know, they'll round up all the known priests, so it wouldn't be a bad idea to have an underground network.  We know that this is ultimately a Satanic plot and they desire more than anything the loss of souls, so I'm sure that depriving the faithful of Sacraments is toward the top of their agenda.  They piloted that earlier in closing down all the churches, where many of the faithful missed Easter Sunday due to the restrictions.
    And also: the traditionalist groups have to consecrate more bishops. Some of them are waiting far too long.
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