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Offline Marulus Fidelis

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Re: Validity of Confessions
« Reply #45 on: April 22, 2023, 01:43:22 PM »
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  • I don’t know any resistance clergy or faithful who consider the conciliar church the Catholic Church.

    That’s a +Fellay/neo-SSPX thing.

    That aside, the notion that you must choose a priest with jurisdiction to hear confessions over one with supplied jurisdiction is unfounded. 

    Jurisdiction is jurisdiction, howsoever the priest obtained it.

    I do not suppose that when St. Athanasius was excommunicated, he ceased hearing confessions on the grounds that there was an orthodox priest only 10 miles away, saying, “You must go to him.  He still has jurisdiction, and therefore I can’t hear your confessions.”
    St. Athanasius wasn't excommunicated by the Pope.

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    Re: Validity of Confessions
    « Reply #46 on: April 22, 2023, 05:48:01 PM »
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  • St. Athanasius wasn't excommunicated by the Pope.

    That's debated.  It appears that he did sign a docuмent, under duress, but them rescinded it.  If it was done under duress, it would have been illegitimate of course.

    But Sean's point is still legitimate.  Not only did they not stop hearing Confessions, but the Catholic bishops went around installing non-Arian bishops in sees that had been usurped by Arians.  "Jurisdiction" wasn't a particularly well-elaborated concept in those days anyway.  It was only later when "Auxuliary" or in the East "Chor" bishops started to become consecrated to help the primary Bishop with his duties that the distinction between a Bishop with jurisdiction and a Chor bishop without jurisdiction came to be clarified.