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Offline Last Tradhican

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Bishops are doing it in Union with the Pope
« on: March 24, 2022, 11:22:36 AM »
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    Re: SSPX Statement on Consecration of Russia and Ukraine (25 March, 2022)
    « Reply #1 on: March 20, 2022, 06:11:15 PM »

    Quote from: frankielogue on March 20, 2022, 06:01:11 PM
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    https://fsspx.news/en/news-events/news/communiqu%C3%A9-general-house-72472?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tweepsmap-FSSPX.News

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    The Priestly Society of Saint Pius X has learned with joy of the announcement of the consecration of Russia and Ukraine to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, scheduled for March 25th.

    After a long wait, punctuated by fervent crusades and assiduous recitation of rosaries, the Society of Saint Pius X is happy to see the request of Our Lady of Fatima taken into account, which called for a solemn act by the Pope in union with all the bishops.
    The Society of Saint Pius X places its trust more than ever in the recitation of the rosary and in the practice of penance. It prays in a special way for peace in the world, ever more convinced that nations will only find concord by a true conversion to Christ the King, through the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
    On the feast of Saint Joseph
    Patron of the Universal Church

    They do not post any links to where they got this information that it is " in union with all the bishops".

    Where does that come from?

    We'll, I stand corrected, our local diocese announced that the bishop's consecration will take place at the cathedral and they are requesting that everyone that can't make it to the cathedral to go to their local church, for exposition of the Blessed Sacrament, rosary, mass, and reading of the consecration. Our local SSPX will be doing the same with all day adoration.

    I and my family will be going to our SSPX chapel because what do I know, maybe Our Lord will accept it. We are going as little children.

    If someone asks me I'll tell them  that I think it is a farce just like the other 6 consecrations, but in this one they are doing it in union with the popes, so maybe God will accept it. I always wondered how these modernist bishops would be convinced to do it, so maybe this is it, an ambiguous Vatican II speak "consecration" that they are doing to look "compassionate to the sufferings of the Ukraine and mankind".

    I'll let God sort this one out.
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    Re: Bishops are doing it in Union with the Pope
    « Reply #1 on: March 24, 2022, 11:45:19 AM »
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    • And they continue to deceive the elect....

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    Re: Bishops are doing it in Union with the Pope
    « Reply #2 on: March 24, 2022, 11:49:10 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 24, 2022, 11:22:36 AM
    If someone asks me I'll tell them  that I think it is a farce just like the other 6 consecrations, but in this one they are doing it in union with the popes, so maybe God will accept it.

    I don't think so.  But if He does accept it, the immediate results would be the conversion and/or deposition (by immediately dropping dead) of the Modernists in the Conciliar hierarchy.
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    Re: Bishops are doing it in Union with the Pope
    « Reply #3 on: March 24, 2022, 11:57:58 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 24, 2022, 11:49:10 AM
    I don't think so.  But if He does accept it, the immediate results would be the conversion and/or deposition (by immediately dropping dead) of the Modernists in the Conciliar hierarchy.
    I do not disagree with you in the least, but on the other hand, God's ways are not our ways, so who knows? Like I said:

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    If someone asks me, I'll tell them that I think it is a farce just like the other 6 consecrations, but in this one they are doing it in union with the popes, so maybe God will accept it. I always wondered how these modernist bishops would be convinced to do it, so maybe this is it, an ambiguous Vatican II speak "consecration" that they are doing to look "compassionate to the sufferings of the Ukraine and mankind".
    It is the same with the 21 flavors of whether the pope is the pope, and the new ordination rite "priests", I do not have certainty of faith one way or the other, but I do not go to New Rite priests, and I can't believe that the VatII popes are valid popes both because I have doubt, and I do not blame or debate with anyone that thinks otherwise. There is no one that really knows what's going on for certain with the Vatican II popes, clergy, and this consecration. Time will tell. 
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    Re: Bishops are doing it in Union with the Pope
    « Reply #4 on: March 24, 2022, 12:09:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on March 24, 2022, 11:45:19 AM
    And they continue to deceive the elect....
    No way to know, till they show their cards, time will tell. 

    I never for one minute believed the USSR has fallen narrative back in 1989 when the Iron Curtain was knocked down, or the 911 Arab Terrorists did it, let's go get Sadam Hussien, or the whole Covid thing. My family was betrayed by the US government back in 1960 and we lost our country, I know better now, I know that there is no US vs communism, it is all the same dung in different packaging. So going tomorrow to my SSPX chapel to the rosary and mass is not being deceived. It is a long road to being deceived.
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    Re: Bishops are doing it in Union with the Pope
    « Reply #5 on: March 24, 2022, 03:03:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 24, 2022, 12:09:12 PM
    No way to know, till they show their cards, time will tell.

    I never for one minute believed the USSR has fallen narrative back in 1989 when the Iron Curtain was knocked down, or the 911 Arab Terrorists did it, let's go get Sadam Hussien, or the whole Covid thing. My family was betrayed by the US government back in 1960 and we lost our country, I know better now, I know that there is no US vs communism, it is all the same dung in different packaging. So going tomorrow to my SSPX chapel to the rosary and mass is not being deceived. It is a long road to being deceived.
    How much time?  a week from now?  a year from now?  a decade? 

    And how will you know?

    The old adage comes to mind:  "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me"
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    Re: Bishops are doing it in Union with the Pope
    « Reply #6 on: March 24, 2022, 03:35:09 PM »
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    • I wouldn't set foot in an SSPX chapel where they're participating in the Bergoglian Anti-Consecration, a public insult to God and Our Lady, and not a repration for blasphemy (of which he is a chief culprit).
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    Re: Bishops are doing it in Union with the Pope
    « Reply #7 on: March 24, 2022, 03:58:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 24, 2022, 03:35:09 PM
    I wouldn't set foot in an SSPX chapel where they're participating in the Bergoglian Anti-Consecration, a public insult to God and Our Lady, and not a reparation for blasphemy (of which he is a chief culprit).
    This is the dilemma I'm facing now, as Fr. Dean appears to believe that it fulfils the requirements and is "good enough" and that we should wait to see its fruits. I'm just interested to see what is said Sunday from the pulpit.
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    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Bishops are doing it in Union with the Pope
    « Reply #8 on: March 24, 2022, 04:15:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on March 24, 2022, 03:58:02 PM
    This is the dilemma I'm facing now, as Fr. Dean appears to believe that it fulfils the requirements and is "good enough" and that we should wait to see its fruits. I'm just interested to see what is said Sunday from the pulpit.

    This is an incredibly dangerous position for them to take, since it could shake a lot of people's faith if/when nothing good happens as a result or if things get even worse.
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    Re: Bishops are doing it in Union with the Pope
    « Reply #9 on: March 24, 2022, 04:31:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 24, 2022, 04:15:41 PM
    This is an incredibly dangerous position for them to take, since it could shake a lot of people's faith if/when nothing good happens as a result or if things get even worse.
    Yep, that's very concerning to me. And it also outlines a problem with those who do believe in the Fatima message: the expectation for worldly peace. I honestly expect a short period of disaster once the true consecration is done, simply because of all the wicked people that God will be forced to deal with.
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    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Bishops are doing it in Union with the Pope
    « Reply #10 on: March 24, 2022, 04:42:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on March 24, 2022, 03:03:44 PM
    How much time?  a week from now?  a year from now?  a decade?

    And how will you know?

    The old adage comes to mind:  "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me"
    Everything is known in time. How long? Who knows? They said JPII's consecration was the factor in the "downfall of communism" and the "USSR collapsed" and people are still saying it today, but I didn't believe a word of it then and still don't to this day like 33 years later. Some here even think Putin is the savior or at least better than Biden. I do not, I think he is the same dung in different packaging.

    No one has fooled me, I am strictly going to do a rosary and a mass. It's not like I am joining the army to go fight for "freedom" in Ukraine or Yemen. As a matter of fact if anyone ever asks me, I am basically going to tell them that I believe it is a farce.
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    Re: Bishops are doing it in Union with the Pope
    « Reply #11 on: March 24, 2022, 04:54:30 PM »
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    • When the real Consecration happens, I don't think there will be any Vll "ambiguity" about it. It will be everything she promised- immediate and thrilling. No one will go picking around for possible signs of a consecration that MAYBE took place (or not) .
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    Re: Bishops are doing it in Union with the Pope
    « Reply #12 on: March 24, 2022, 05:23:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on March 24, 2022, 04:54:30 PM
    When the real Consecration happens, I don't think there will be any Vll "ambiguity" about it. It will be everything she promised- immediate and thrilling. No one will go picking around for possible signs of a consecration that MAYBE took place (or not) .

    THIS^^^ ... and we won't have to wade through paragraphs of Modernist tripe to get to the consecration itself.
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    Re: Bishops are doing it in Union with the Pope
    « Reply #13 on: March 24, 2022, 08:07:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 24, 2022, 04:15:41 PM
    This is an incredibly dangerous position for them to take, since it could shake a lot of people's faith if/when nothing good happens as a result or if things get even worse.
    Agreed for the reason stated, but what could be worse is that a preplanned cessation of hostilities and aversion of some total catastrophe could be a great sign or wonder that deceives even the Elect into the legitimacy of some New World Religion. Would if Russia threatens or uses a nuke in the am only to be stood down by "Francis the savior" in the pm? Ugh!
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    Re: Bishops are doing it in Union with the Pope
    « Reply #14 on: March 24, 2022, 08:35:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: JoeZ on March 24, 2022, 08:07:30 PM
    Agreed for the reason stated, but what could be worse is that a preplanned cessation of hostilities and aversion of some total catastrophe could be a great sign or wonder that deceives even the Elect into the legitimacy of some New World Religion. Would if Russia threatens or uses a nuke in the am only to be stood down by "Francis the savior" in the pm? Ugh!
    That's what I suspect is the aim behind this whole charade.
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    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]
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