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Offline Emerentiana

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Bishop Fellay is misleading the SSPX
« on: April 12, 2012, 06:58:12 PM »
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  • I know that Matthew and a lot of you dont like Traditio.  However, this is a very true synopsis of Bishop Fellay's beliefs.  I pray hes ousted, and the SSPX returns to true tradition, and aggressively promotes the true faith.  


    A Reader Says: "For Two Decades Bernie Fellay Has Been Misleading His Laity
    By His False Notion of Traditional Catholicism"


    From: Gilbert (India)
    Dear TRADITIO Fathers:

    For two decades Bernie Fellay has been misleading his laity by his false notion of traditional Catholicism. So, here are ten reasons why Fellay should stop misleading his laity into thinking that he and his Neo-SSPX are "traditionalist" and immediately sign up with the New Order sect, of which he is already, with his pro-Modernistic thought, already a member.

    Fellay accepts the invalid Protestant-Masonic-Pagan Novus Ordo service of 1969 as valid.
    Fellay accepts in its essence the Novus Ordo 1983 "Code of Canon Law."
    Fellay admits, as Archbishop Lefebvre did not, that he and his other three bishops were "excommunicated" and were then "unexcommunicated" by the New Order's Newpope Benedict-Ratzinger.
    Fellay has an "I Am the Church" mentality and thus enforces his personal corrupted views of Catholicism upon his members under pain of being banished.
    Fellay accepts Vatican II "in the light of tradition," whatever that means.


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    Bishop Fellay is misleading the SSPX
    « Reply #1 on: April 12, 2012, 07:01:32 PM »
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  • I don't think the list is necessarily true, and I think the Traditio writers sound like a broken record.

    But I do think Bishop Fellay has betrayed his real allegiances, and they are not to Catholic Tradition.


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    Bishop Fellay is misleading the SSPX
    « Reply #2 on: April 12, 2012, 07:04:45 PM »
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  • Did all of you notice that the word p r e s b y t e r , is blocked out again on the post.  Wonder why this is happening? :shocked: :shocked:

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    Bishop Fellay is misleading the SSPX
    « Reply #3 on: April 12, 2012, 07:13:12 PM »
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  • Too bad the whole post wasn't blotted out. There's  a more intelligent way to discuss these issues and its not as if they're not being discussed here already in my opinion. And its interesting to note the type of sede who concerns themselves with these matters constantly; unfortunately this 'type' gets all the attention because there are much holier and intelligent ones out there.

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    Bishop Fellay is misleading the SSPX
    « Reply #4 on: April 12, 2012, 07:16:25 PM »
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  • Quote from: s2srea
    Too bad the whole post wasn't blotted out. There's  a more intelligent way to discuss these issues and its not as if they're not being discussed here already in my opinion. And its interesting to note the type of sede who concerns themselves with these matters constantly; unfortunately this 'type' gets all the attention because there are much holier and intelligent ones out there.


    Gosh, Rhea,
    I dont think Im a stupid sede, but I do think the points a reader made to traditio are very accurate!


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    « Reply #5 on: April 12, 2012, 07:20:19 PM »
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    Too bad the whole post wasn't blotted out. There's  a more intelligent way to discuss these issues and its not as if they're not being discussed here already in my opinion. And its interesting to note the type of sede who concerns themselves with these matters constantly; unfortunately this 'type' gets all the attention because there are much holier and intelligent ones out there.


    Gosh, Rhea,
    I dont think Im a stupid sede, but I do think the points a reader made to traditio are very accurate!


    Emerentiana- I don't think you're stupid either; Traditio acts like a 5 year old child the way they discuss things. I mean, "Bernie", really? He may not be the best bishop, I can agree with this, but this is immature. I think my point remains:

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    There's  a more intelligent way to discuss these issues and its not as if they're not being discussed here already in my opinion.


    And quite frankly, its a far stretch to say the SSPX has "left" tradition Emerentiana.

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    « Reply #6 on: April 12, 2012, 07:27:53 PM »
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    And quite frankly, its a far stretch to say the SSPX has "left" tradition Emerentiana.


    I think thge SSPX is traditional, but Bishop Fellay is not leading the SSPX closer to tradition, but closer to the Novus Ordo Church.  Thats the point of the article, and you really cant deny the points in the article.  

    Bishop Williamson or one of the other bishops  need to come to the rescue before the SSPX is sucked into the Novus Ordo Church!

    Of course, if ALL of the SSPX bishops believe that the  1968 rite of consecration is valid,  then the Society has major problems!

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    « Reply #7 on: April 12, 2012, 07:34:48 PM »
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    Of course, if ALL of the SSPX bishops believe that the  1968 rite of consecration is valid,  then the Society has major problems!


    I'd say if you don't know, ask.

    As a side note, nothing has happened... yet. So there's no need to panic... yet. Even if (and 'if' is a dangerous and leading word) the Society regularizes- I will still attend the SSPX parish by my house. Of course I will be just as watchful for the sake of my and my family's soul, as I am now, as to what is going on with the SSPX, especially when it comes to the priest who is administering the sacraments to me, but for the most part I will not leave unless I need to. Continuing to attend an SSPX mass will not be an issue for most apart from what many sedevecantists would like to believe and spread; that's what Traditio and like minded foe's would have good people believe. Its a step in the direction of MHFM I believe.


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    « Reply #8 on: April 12, 2012, 07:43:47 PM »
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  • Yes, Rhea,  Thats exactly what most SSPX laity believe.  Wait and watch.
    Ive  been a sede for almost 50 years.  The WATCHERS in my day, stayed with the subtle changes, and when the canon of the mass was changed,  most of them accepted the changes.  After all.......werent these changes coming from Rome?  Didnt they then, as now, believe that there was a true Holy father there?  

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    « Reply #9 on: April 12, 2012, 07:44:37 PM »
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  • Traditio has their faults but I'm glad their around to keep us updated on what is going on. We all  know how Bishop Fellay treated Bishop Williamson.

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    « Reply #10 on: April 12, 2012, 07:45:44 PM »
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    Traditio has their faults but I'm glad their around to keep us updated on what is going on. We all  know how Bishop Fellay treated Bishop Williamson.


    yOU ARE SO RIGHT, tHURSDAY!  


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    « Reply #11 on: April 12, 2012, 07:48:49 PM »
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    Traditio has their faults but I'm glad their around to keep us updated on what is going on. We all  know how Bishop Fellay treated Bishop Williamson.


    You are so right Thursday!
    To me, they are the "Watchers on the wall".   However, I do not think its appropriate for them to call Bishop Fellay "Bernie".  Its disrespectful to his office as a Bishop.

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    « Reply #12 on: April 12, 2012, 07:55:06 PM »
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    Yes, Rhea,  Thats exactly what most SSPX laity believe.  Wait and watch.
    Ive  been a sede for almost 50 years.  The WATCHERS in my day, stayed with the subtle changes, and when the canon of the mass was changed,  most of them accepted the changes.  After all.......werent these changes coming from Rome?  Didnt they then, as now, believe that there was a true Holy father there?  


    I highly doubt the SSPXers, or even non sspx, who are 'watchers' are anything like the watchers of the past 50 years Emerentiana. If that was the case, we'd all still be in the Novus Ordo.

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    « Reply #13 on: April 12, 2012, 07:57:08 PM »
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    Traditio has their faults but I'm glad their around to keep us updated on what is going on. We all  know how Bishop Fellay treated Bishop Williamson.


    Are you trying to say we would think otherwise of the injustice served to +Williamson if it weren't for Traditio? I don't think so...

    Traditio is the trad world's TMZ. No credibility, and immature.

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    « Reply #14 on: April 12, 2012, 10:58:12 PM »
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    For two decades Bernie Fellay has been misleading his laity by his false notion of traditional Catholicism.


    Bishop Fellay hasn't always been like this. Has Traditio seen the video in the late 90s where Fellay says there are four Masonic lodges operating inside the Vatican? It's the last three years that he has done a poor job.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.