Author Topic: Bishop Fellay: "The Jews are our elder brothers" (Read 4225 times)

Matthew · « **on:** February 01, 2009, 10:07:34 PM »

Strong words of the Superior General of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X (FSSPX / SSPX), Bishop Bernard Fellay, against any suspicion of Antisemitism.

1. First, in a declaration made yesterday to Famille Chrétienne, the French Catholic weekly, as reported by La Croix this Sunday:

Bishop Bernard Fellay welcomed "Famille Chrétienne" [French Catholic weekly] on January 31, in his General House of Menzingen, Switzerland. He responded in particular to the accusations of Antisemitism cast at the Fraternity of Saint Pius X.

"We evidently condemn every act of murder of the innocent. It is a crime that cries to heaven! Even more so when it is related to a people. We reject every accusation of Antisemitism. Completely and absolutely. We reject every form of approval of what happened under Hitler. This is something abominable. Christianity places Charity at a supreme level. Saint Paul, speaking of the Jews, proclaims, 'I wished myself to be an anathema [from Christ], for my brethren!" (Rom. 9, 3). The Jews are "our elder brothers" in the sense that we have something in common, that is, the old Covenant. It is true that the acknowledgment of the coming of the Messiah separates us.

"It is very interesting to notice that the Church did not await for the Council to prescribe courses of action regarding the Jews. Since the 30s, even during the war, several texts of Rome provide a very just position: the abominations of the Hitlerist regime must be condemned! 'Spiritually, we all Semites', Pope Pius XI had said. It is a truth which comes from Sacred Scripture itself, 'we are sons of Abraham,' Saint Paul also affirms."

2. Also by an e-mail message sent this Sunday to the Rev. Dr. Alcuin Reid (forwarded to several blogs):

Statement by Dr Alcuin Reid:

On Friday BBC Radio asked me to discuss recent events concerning the SSPX on 'The Sunday Programme' this morning. Following that request I asked the SSPX for comment on the issues to be discussed. Unfortunately Bishop Fellay's reply reached me only after the programme aired. His reply, wriiten for publication, states:

"The position of Bishop Williamson is clearly not the position of our Society. Antisemitism has no place in our ranks. We follow fully God's commandments on justice and charity and the constant teaching of the Church. Antisemitism has been condemned by the Church. So do we condemn it. I fully agree with Fr Schmidberger's statement about Bishop Williamson's words. (www.fsspx.info)"

God bless you

+Bernard Fellay

Matthew · « **Reply #1 on:** February 01, 2009, 10:10:25 PM »

That's incorrect -- Bishop Williamson made no "anti-semitic" remarks. He merely (prudently or imprudently, that is the debate) expressed his opinion -- which he emphasized was only his opinion -- that the research suggested that gas chambers did not kill 6 million Jews during the so-called h0Ɩ0cαųst.

Since when can't a bishop be a teacher, nevermind expressing a personal opinion? He never gave it out as being the SSPX's position.

How is that anti-semitic?

I agree with most of what Bishop Fellay says -- Charity must be maintained at all times, the Jews were beloved by St. Paul, they had the Old Covenant, etc.

But it doesn't follow that Bishop Williamson's comments were anti-semitic.

So Bishop Fellay condemns...the REMARKS made by Bishop Williamson. The presumption is that +W's remarks would be condemned by the Church.

I hope Bishop Fellay isn't TOO anxious to re-unite with Rome...early (that is, before the time).

Matthew

Dawn · « **Reply #2 on:** February 02, 2009, 08:06:58 AM »

I read an article by Dr. Thomas Drolesky this weekend. In it he took great time in listing sermons from St. John Chrysostom in regards to the desease many suffered in his days. What desease? The Jews. He made it very clear that we are to have nothing to do with or recognize in anyway anything about the Jews, except to pray for their conversion. He would have been aghast at this "elder brother" nonsense, as he went to great lengths to show that they ALWAYS disobeyed God which is why they were always in some form of suffering for their sinfulness. And, that even though they have the old testament in their ѕуηαgσgυєs, it is no different then when a pagan ruler placed these writings in a temple to a pagan God. It means nothing.
Sad to say that Fr. Moderator (who time has shown to be correct in most things) is being proven right again. Fellay was always working to get in good with folks running NewChurch.

Matthew · « **Reply #3 on:** February 02, 2009, 10:36:52 AM »

Here is the argument Bishop Fellay is using:

Major: Antisemitism was condemned by the Church, being against Charity.
Minor: Bishop Williamson's words were antisemitic.
Conclusion: Bishop Williamson's words are condemned by the Church, and against the precept of Charity.

I take issue with the MINOR.

His statements are considered Anti-semitic by the Jews, in the sense that ANY criticism of the Jews marks one as anti-semitic. (Criticizing Israel for using White Phosphorus on civilians, for example)

However, musing about the historical reality of the h0Ɩ0cαųst is NOT hatred of the Jews. Studying a historical event was NEVER condemned by the Church!

I am shocked to see Bishop Fellay using such sophisms and bad arguments!

Matthew

Telesphorus · « **Reply #4 on:** July 07, 2011, 10:42:06 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Here is the argument Bishop Fellay is using:

Major: Antisemitism was condemned by the Church, being against Charity.
Minor: Bishop Williamson's words were antisemitic.
Conclusion: Bishop Williamson's words are condemned by the Church, and against the precept of Charity.

I take issue with the MINOR.

His statements are considered Anti-semitic by the Jews, in the sense that ANY criticism of the Jews marks one as anti-semitic. (Criticizing Israel for using White Phosphorus on civilians, for example)

However, musing about the historical reality of the h0Ɩ0cαųst is NOT hatred of the Jews. Studying a historical event was NEVER condemned by the Church!

I am shocked to see Bishop Fellay using such sophisms and bad arguments!

Matthew

What course has Bishop Fellay pursued these past two years? I am not sanguine about the future.

Author Topic: Bishop Fellay: &quot;The Jews are our elder brothers&quot; (Read 4225 times)

Author Topic: Bishop Fellay: "The Jews are our elder brothers" (Read 4225 times)