From Jan 1st-4th Bishop Donald Sanborn will be visiting England, once a solid centre of Christendom before Henry VIII imagined himself the head of the Church in England and birthed the apostatical Anglican sect and, unwittingly, the nonconfessional United States. There are some faithful who are serious about establishing a permanent and regular non-una-cuм Mass centre in the UK in addition to what is currently available and the Bishop will be meeting those people and speaking at different locations throughout the country, as well as hearing confessions and saying Mass.


Even if you do not agree with the sedevacantist position, at least consider attending to hear the evidence. At least then you can say you have thoroughly explored every avenue. The attendance of the British at the Bishop's landmark Vatican II London Conference this time last year was unimpressive to say the least. If the SSPX and Resistance folks are so secure in their arguments, why do they shy away from a golden opportunity to prove that their position is right? Are there serious thinkers in the UK, unafraid of reasonable debate? Or are people just happy to do whatever the SSPX or Bishop Williamson tells them, just as "good Catholics" in the 1960s followed their false pastors? This series of talks will reveal the UK's commitment, strength, honesty, and resilience.


On January 1st he will say Mass in Leicestershire, England. The program will be as follows:



11am Confessions

Noon Mass

130pm Lunch

230pm The Bergoglian Era

330pm The Una cuм Mass

430pm The Errors of Bishop Williamson

There will be a break in between each talk.



On January 2nd-4th he will say Mass in London, England. The program will be as follows:



January 2nd

11am Confessions

Noon Mass

130pm Lunch

230pm Spiritual Conference: Mental Prayer



January 3rd

11am Confessions

Noon Mass

130pm Lunch

230pm Spiritual Conference: Humility



January 4th

11am Confessions

Noon Mass

230pm The Bergoglian Era

330pm The Una cuм Mass

430pm The Errors of Bishop Williamson

There will be a break in between each talk.


For more details and to RSVP please contact info@tridentinemasssociety.co.uk or message the group in the UK on twitter.

430pm The Errors of Bishop Williamson

Interesting topic given that he's going to Bishop Williamson's back yard.

The "Oyster bay Cove" gang took a major hit in Jan. of this year when novusordo watch put out the 2004 debate with Fastiggi. Maybe that is why none really cares what Sanborn has to say?

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Even if you do not agree with the sedevacantist position

Last time I checked, Bishop Sanborn does not agree with the sedevacantist position, because he's a sedeprivationist.

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430pm The Errors of Bishop Williamson

Well, let's see here... maybe Bishop Sanborn should discuss his own errors first and repent, and then publicly acknowledge he (+Sanborn) was in error, for bringing a civil suit against the good Archbishop Lefebvre. Bringing a civil suit against a bishop violates Old Code of Canon Law, and effects an automatic excommunication.

As much as I dislike Bp. Sanborn, I'm not sure that applies, given the irregular state of things. Also, we would need to see the exact wording of the suit and delve into the legalities regarding the status of the SSPX during sede vacante.

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Quote from: Lucy

Even if you do not agree with the sedevacantist position

Last time I checked, Bishop Sanborn does not agree with the sedevacantist position, because he's a sedeprivationist.

Ever since Bp. Sanborn rejected the popes of Vatican II, he has always been positively supportive of the sedevacantist position as being the true position. You should drop the "sedeprivationist" terminology because that was invented by someone who was against the "papa materialiter" distinction. That distinction (which Bp. Sanborn subscribes to) fully supports the outright belief that the popes of Vatican II are NOT true popes.

Listen, Ding Dong, try using some critical thinking before viewing things in black and white, and subsequently spewing out ignorant comments. It's no wonder you've made 611 comments on this forum, yet your reputation is an anemic 64.   While the privationist position is that Francis is only a material pope, he can become fully the pope, hence infallibility in matters of the Faith, morality, Canon Law and declaring sainthood, if he converts to the true Catholic Faith, and rescinds Vatican II Council and the novus queerdo mass. Moreover, since Francis is a material pope, that means the bishops and priests are material clergy, too, thus they can effect the Sacraments because the ordinations are still valid. The sedevacantist position, however, basically says there is little to zero opportunity to restore the papacy and episcopacy because almost all of the bishops and clergy are "not validly ordained", thus nobody could confer episcopal consecrations to restore the magisterium and papacy, in the event that Francis and cardinals decided to convert.

songbird - I don't think that Sanborn coined the term sedeprivationist.  I believe it was an englishman who did.  

Songbird - It was coined by british catholic theologian william j. morgan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedeprivationism

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