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Offline Aleah

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Bishop Athanasius' Comments About Sedevacantists.
« on: March 14, 2022, 05:50:14 AM »

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Offline Ladislaus

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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2022, 08:04:04 AM »
So Bishop Schneider would disagree with XavierNishantSem and the dogmatic R&R that the SVs are heretics.  There's no heresy there.  At best you can argue that they're wrong in their conclusions and misapply some principles of Catholic theology.  I think that it's fair to suggest that the dogmatic SV position can lead to a schismatic mentality (in excluding those who disagree with their conclusions from the Church).  But, then, how are the dogmatic R&R (who declare SVs to be heretics) not guilty of the same thing?

This notion that Bergoglio is not the legitimate pope is gaining ground, with many of them landing in the intermediate position of Bennyvacantism.  Even Patrick Coffin recently came out as a Bennyvacantist.  Any Catholics with a sense of the faith left simply do not recognize Berogoglio as having the same faith that we do.
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Offline Ladislaus

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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2022, 08:07:12 AM »
+Schneider makes a valid point that the Conciliar emphasis on ecuŠ¼enism toward the Orthodox is not consistent with excludiing SVs from the Church, since the latter, unlike the former, do NOT actually reject Catholic teaching regarding the papacy and other defined issues.  Conciliarists admit the Orthodox to the "Catholic" Sacraments, and yet would exclude SVs?
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Offline DigitalLogos

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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2022, 08:25:11 AM »
Interesting. I'm heartened to see +Schneider recognizing the SV's as, for the most part, orthodox. Yet, he's naive if he thinks they're going to respond to talks from Rome when many of them have issue with the potentially-invalid Holy Orders that most of the hierarchy, including +Schneider, would have. Recall the split that occurred within even R&R once +Fellay started negotiating with Modernist Rome.

Now, if you're sedeprivationist/impoundist, then a reality of reconciliation under an orthodox Pope would be possible, and even +Sanborn said he would submit if that were the case and V2 were tossed out. But, I doubt many of the hardliner SVists would move toward Rome even if we had an orthodox Pope because of the Holy Orders issue. This includes those in the mindset of the quoted Fr. Cekada.
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Offline Pax Vobis

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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2022, 09:51:23 AM »

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Yet, he's naive if he thinks they're going to respond to talks from Rome
I didn't watch the video...is new-rome actually interested in having talks with all the SV communities?
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