This is why Indult priests were freaking out on FB last night. ... (and started calling him "Bergoglio" instead of "His Holiness").
What are they saying today? I hope these priests continue to react to this.
The two I know are MAD; no denial yet at all. Someone mentioned it was like taking the red pill in The Matrix (the blue pill keeps you seeing the illusion but is pretty; the red pill shows you the ugly truth) and that post got A LOT of likes (which are all public; hover and the names pop up). One priest from another country joined in and openly called Bergoglio a heretic just a few hours ago.
The sad, but expected, part is that some of the priests' laity are attacking the priests for not having faith! And one woman kept saying that while Frank was (the FB emoticon for poop), BXVI is the only "real pope" and "we" should all get behind him. It's MAYHEM, but I don't think these priests are backing down at all (2 Novus Ordo "trads", one Irish one). Then there was a new one who just popped up (I don't know this priest, but others did):
He's still calling Frank "pope", but I think he's just shell-shocked. The neatest thing is, laymen who I really thought were Novus Ordo through-and-through said (publically) that they had been worried about Frank a long time but were scared to say anything. It wasn't emotional "he's a devil I hate him" stuff either; they made good points.
One priest is seriously depressed, as well as angry. He said he hoped the day would never come, but "we are sede vacante". For a NO trad, that's a pretty huge step I think. When someone told him to wait for Frank to die (LOL), he was very clear that he believes Rome has fallen. He doesn't know what to do, but feels responsible for his laity. (Guess he's resisting but NOT waiting). He doesn't CARE what happens to him; he was quoting Bible and Church Fathers and even the less-cheerful parts of the Apocalypse. (So glad I didn't unfriend him; very smart priest.)
Very interesting. And good, I think. Though it does provoke me to share some thoughts I'd been having lately. The kind of things Francis is saying-- these have all already been said by the other conciliar pontiffs, including Benedict. Granted, they were usually steeped in lofty verbiage and sometimes it wasn't so much what they were saying but the conclusions that necessarily followed from what they were saying (though make no mistake, they're all guilty of their own 'unambiguous' heresies), but nevertheless what Francis presents to us isn't new. It's the way in which he presents it that is new. This is VII concentrate, or VII synthesized, purified, distilled, whatever. It's VII in it's purest, most ordinary form. Francis is articulating to the world, in every-man's terms, the false 'doctrines' (which are not doctrines at all as they are in perpetual flux) of the false Church.
Now, as far as I'm concerned, whatever gets someone to break communion with the conciliar Church is good enough. Whether it's that Francis wears the wrong shoes or whatever, the sooner that people leave the Novus Ordo the better. Nevertheless, I fear that there may be some who leave only to return when someone a little more palatable comes along. This new and emerging brand of trad who rejects Francis and longs for the day of 'Papa Benedict' is sadly naive. I hope that those who begin to approach traditional Catholicism due to the heresies of Francis will not stop there, and will realize that the last fifty-odd years have been one heresy after another, from the council to the new mass to the conciliar papacy. I think that such a recognition is necessary to persevere in the traditional faith.
I point this out as a worry. Quite honestly, I think Uncle Frank is a boon to the traditional movement. I think our numbers can be expected to grow. I point this out simply because I know there are those out there that want to just re-wind the clock to the glory of Summorum Pontificuм; but that is not good enough.
I agree with this. However, hopefully, this is the first step for many of them. It has got to be even harder for a priest to come to these conclusions than a lay person. I wonder what my NO "Trad" priest is thinking. Based upon the homilies I have heard him say, I think he would fit this description: a pro-Benedict priest. I have never heard him quote Francis, but I have heard him speak of/quote Benedict. I suspect he has never been too crazy with Francis (but of course you would never hear that).
I have been thinking about this as well. I tend to think that the previous conciliar popes'
actions were more at fault than their actual words...at least those words that the general public heard about. The only questionable thing that I remember Benedict "saying" was the condom comment. However, he too was steeped in the false ecuмenism with his taking part in Jєωιѕн and Lutheran services, etc. He may have said other things but this is the one thing that I remember hitting the news...big. With Francis, so far as pope, it's mostly his words which have been all over the news for everyone to see. I'm not saying the news has twisted his words just that they seem to hang on every word (so we hear about everything).
As far as returning, hopefully, with the next conclave, we will see an end to this madness....and their won't be a VII church to return to. I'm not sure how this is going to happen when most of the same cardinals elected Francis, but I have to think God will work this out.
And St Cecelia, I LMAO at the Buddha statues. I see both Sprites and Buddha statues too.
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