NOTE:  I do not know if the pictures that are used are copyrighted, so listen to the sound without looking at the pictures -- yes, I'm a bit scrupulous.

http://www.youtube.com/user/mhfm1#p/a/f/2/336CC1vwb5E

This is a video by the Dimonds, but it is not about baptism of desire, but about salvation in false religions, what I call the REAL EENS heresy.  Just listen to the quote at the end from Father Martin Stepanich, a chilling word-for-word contradiction of the Council of Florence.

Father Martin Stepanich has also, in his writings, tried to make it appear that salvation through invincible ignorance is a dogma.

This all hinges on Pius XII.  Once you realize Pius XII was most likely an anti-Pope, due to NFP, you remove Suprema Haec Sacra, the only direct connection any "Pope" has ever had to teaching salvation by invincible ignorance, since Pius XII apparently approved of SHS in 1952  Once you remove Pius XII, you realize no true Pope has ever taught what these "traditional" priests are teaching, that moreover, unlike baptism of desire, what they are teaching has been infallibly condemned.

Their misinterpretation of Pius IX, thinking -- or pretending to think -- that he said invincible ignorance saves, also shows their true colors.  In this article, reprinted by Thomas Droleskey, Father Stepanich posits "two dogmas," the first that there is no salvation outside the Church, and the second that you can be saved through invincible ignorance.  Not just content to say that you can be saved through invincible ignorance, he claims his misreading of Pius IX is dogma!

http://www.christorchaos.com/OutisdetheChurchThereIsNoSalvationbyFatherStepanich.htm

What Pius IX said is that someone following the natural law would not be permitted to suffer eternal torments, meaning that God would send such a person a missionary or angel to convert him.  To read it any other way would be to contradict what Pius IX said right before:  

Quanto Conficiamur Moerere

"Here, too, our beloved sons and venerable brothers, it is again necessary to mention and censure a very grave error entrapping some Catholics who believe that it is possible to arrive at eternal salvation although living in error and alienated from the true faith and Catholic unity. Such belief is certainly opposed to Catholic teaching."

No SANE man (that I have ever met) posits the idea that ignorance is a POSITIVE quality, productive of ANYTHING.

What Pius IX said is that someone following the natural law would not be permitted to suffer eternal torments, meaning that God would send such a person a missionary or angel to convert him.

According to you, Mike.

To read it any other way would be to contradict what Pius IX said right before:  

Quanto Conficiamur Moerere

Quote

"Here, too, our beloved sons and venerable brothers, it is again necessary to mention and censure a very grave error entrapping some Catholics who believe that it is possible to arrive at eternal salvation although living in error and alienated from the true faith and Catholic unity. Such belief is certainly opposed to Catholic teaching."

Again, YOU are saying there is a contradiction, provided that one is NOT reading the idea of "...angel or missionary..." into what follows.

Whatever your interpretation, Eamon, of Pius IX's statement that God will not permit someone following the natural law to be eternally punished, he CANNOT be saying that someone is saved BY invincible ignorance.

Mike, NO ONE -- in the article or in this thread -- is saying a man CAN be "saved" BY something that, by definition, represents a LACK.

It's not that hard to come out and say it:  God will get the Faith to those who faithfully obey the natural law and yet are in invincibly ignorance of the true religion.

Stepanich doesn't come close to saying this.

God Bless the saintly Father Stepanich!