Author Topic: Bergolio says that there are many American Catholics who won’t accept Vatican II (Read 45526 times)

Stubborn · « **Reply #270 on:** June 21, 2022, 11:54:41 AM »

Quote from: DigitalLogos on June 21, 2022, 11:34:50 AM

Indeed it is beautiful, yet the discussion is not about the beauty of the quote but its truth that heretics are not part of the Church. They are outside of it. A truth which you obstinate deny.

Denzinger, Sources of Catholic Dogma, 13th ed., no. 423, pg. 167
https://u1lib.org/book/14465091/e4a377

Thanks.
Also, I was hoping to be wrong, but as it turns out I did know you would find it impossible to accept that only Catholics can use the sacrament of confession, therefore only Catholics guilty of the mortal sin of heresy and want to repent can go to confession. Sad day.

DigitalLogos · « **Reply #271 on:** June 21, 2022, 11:57:38 AM »

Quote from: Stubborn on June 21, 2022, 11:54:41 AM

Thanks.
Also, I was hoping to be wrong, but as it turns out I did know you would find it impossible to accept that only Catholics can use the sacrament of confession, therefore only Catholics guilty of the mortal sin of heresy and want to repent can go to confession. Sad day.

Heretics are not Catholics until they abjure their errors. As three other people have told you. Get behind me Satan

Stubborn · « **Reply #272 on:** June 21, 2022, 12:17:10 PM »

Quote from: DigitalLogos on June 21, 2022, 11:57:38 AM

Heretics are not Catholics until they abjure their errors. As three other people have told you. Get behind me Satan

See, the truth always comes out eventually.

Also, dozens of other sedes before those three other sedes said the same wrong thing. The Church is not a democracy, there really is no strength in numbers when it comes to error.

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #273 on:** June 21, 2022, 01:03:15 PM »

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Heretics are not Catholics until they abjure their errors.

Correction: Formal heretics. Even MHFM admits there are different types of heresy.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #274 on:** June 21, 2022, 01:04:57 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on June 21, 2022, 01:03:15 PM

Correction: Formal heretics. Even MHFM admits there are different types of heresy.

Depends on semantics. Many theologians don't consider material error to be "heresy" and would not classify those in material error as "heretics" at all. I read a big discussion on this in one scholastic theology manual.

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