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Offline trad123

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Re: Bergolio says that there are many American Catholics who won’t accept Vatican II
« Reply #225 on: June 20, 2022, 10:35:05 PM »
Canon 731:


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§ 2. It is forbidden that the Sacraments of the Church be ministered to heretics and schismatics, even if they ask for them and are in good faith, unless beforehand, rejecting their errors, they are reconciled with the Church.


AKA abjuration.
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Re: Bergolio says that there are many American Catholics who won’t accept Vatican II
« Reply #226 on: June 20, 2022, 10:36:10 PM »
Quote from: trad123 on June 20, 2022, 10:32:17 PM
Abjuration


https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01044d.htm




Abjuration  ►  Sacrament of penance
In case someone tries to play smart penance in the non VII sect form includes release from excom etc
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Re: Bergolio says that there are many American Catholics who won’t accept Vatican II
« Reply #227 on: June 20, 2022, 10:38:13 PM »
Quote from: trad123 on June 20, 2022, 10:35:05 PM
Canon 731:



AKA abjuration.
Yes, as an Anglican heretic I got abjured -> absolved when I was received. Probably Stubborn is cradle.
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Offline trad123

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Re: Bergolio says that there are many American Catholics who won’t accept Vatican II
« Reply #228 on: June 20, 2022, 10:39:03 PM »
It's obvious that a Catholic that became a heretic, or a schismatic, or an apostate, which is to say they weren't Catholic anymore, if they abjure their error prior to the sacrament of penance, they become once more Catholic, albeit dead members, until the sacrament is received or if they manage to make a perfect act of contrition.
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Re: Bergolio says that there are many American Catholics who won’t accept Vatican II
« Reply #229 on: June 20, 2022, 10:39:51 PM »
Is Stubborn going to remain so stubborn as to be pernicious?
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