But there's a clear reality to the material-formal distinction. Let's say the Siri thesis is not correct, these men would have had the Church's designation to the papacy ... which was never repudiated. Had they converted some time after their election, they would then have formally assumed the office. Heretics cannot formally assume or exercise office, but they can in fact be designated for office.
Suppose that happened, and an Antipope repudiates his errors and converts; since it would necessitate them to publicly abjure their errors, given they were acting as the apparent Pontiff, would not a new conclave need to be called? His office was null and void, as was his election, in this case, with these Antipopes being manifest heretics preceding their "election", one would have to conclude that they were not, in-fact, selected by the Holy Ghost and therefore a new conclave would be necessary.
We have many heretical bishops even before Vatican II. Let's take Cardinal Cushing, for instance. Obvious manifest heretic. Due to the fact that he remained designated for office by Pius XII, he did in fact to some extent remain in office. He was able to still serve as a conduit for jurisdiction for the priests who were subject to him. He could appoint priests to be pastors. And so on.
Yes, but, wouldn't that be just a testimony to the nature of their office rather than the ability to command after becoming a manifest heretic? In the same way that Eastern "Orthodox" bishops can create priests illicitly, as they are heretics? And I could see, in Cushing's case, while the See of Boston is vacant because he is a manifest heretic, losing jurisdiction, the jurisdiction could still be supplied by means of, as you say, a "conduit" much like jurisdiction is supplied to SSPX priests in confession, when they do not possess any jurisdiction.
Yet, again, this is based upon the fact that Cushing was already the valid Archbishop of Boston, allowing him to remain the "conduit" of supplied jurisdiction in that See, kind of like how Bishops and Cardinals can still be appointed during a sede vacante of the Papacy; whereas, JPII, for example, was
never validly the Bishop of Rome given he was a heretic beforehand, and would not have any possession of universal jurisdiction regardless, preventing him from even serving as a "conduit" for the appointment of Bishops, Cardinals, and priests by this means.