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  • Bergolio Spews More Blatant Heresy

    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/full-text-pope-francis-inflight-press-conference-from-armenia-45222/[/quote]

    Pope Francis: I think that the intentions of Martin Luther were not mistaken. He was a reformer. Perhaps some methods were not correct. But in that time, if we read the story of the Pastor, a German Lutheran who then converted when he saw reality – he became Catholic – in that time, the Church was not exactly a model to imitate. There was corruption in the Church, there was worldliness, attachment to money, to power...and this he protested. Then he was intelligent and took some steps forward justifying, and because he did this. And today Lutherans and Catholics, Protestants, all of us agree on the doctrine of justification. On this point, which is very important, he did not err. He made a medicine for the Church, but then this medicine consolidated into a state of things, into a state of a discipline, into a way of believing, into a way of doing, into a liturgical way and he wasn’t alone; there was Zwingli, there was Calvin, each one of them different, and behind them were who? Principals! We must put ourselves in the story of that time. It’s a story that’s not easy to understand, not easy. Then things went forward, and today the dialogue is very good. That docuмent of justification I think is one of the richest ecuмenical docuмents in the world, one in most agreement. But there are divisions, and these also depend on the Churches. In Buenos Aires there were two Lutheran churches, and one thought in one way and the other...even in the same Lutheran church there was no unity; but they respected each other, they loved each other, and the difference is perhaps what hurt all of us so badly and today we seek to take up the path of encountering each other after 500 years. I think that we have to pray together, pray. Prayer is important for this. Second, to work together for the poor, for the persecuted, for many people, for refugees, for the many who suffer; to work together and pray together and the theologians who study together try...but this is a long path, very long. One time jokingly I said: I know when full unity will happen. - “when?” - “the day after the Son of Man comes,” because we don’t know...the Holy Spirit will give the grace, but in the meantime, praying, loving each other and working together. Above all for the poor, for the people who suffer and for peace and many things...against the exploitation of people and many things in which they are jointly working together.
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    Bergolio Credits Luther for Creating Doctrine on Justification
    « Reply #1 on: July 01, 2016, 03:02:13 PM »
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  • What a bunch of gibberish; it's barely even intelligible.


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    Bergolio Credits Luther for Creating Doctrine on Justification
    « Reply #2 on: July 01, 2016, 05:39:32 PM »
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  • From this article: Francis, the Bishop of Luterans:

    https://en.denzingerbergoglio.com/2016/06/30/francis-the-bishop-of-lutherans/

    Not even is his worst delusions, Luther would have imagined that the Church he insulted as a “diabolical institution”, “diabolical scuм of Rome” or the “great prostitute of Babylon”, would offer glory and recognition in the twenty-first century. This is the “thank you”, whom the Lutherans offered Francis, during his visit to the Protestant community of Rome, happily affirming: “For us Lutherans in Rome, Francis is our bishop” (Aleteia).

    Quote from: Teachings of the Magisterium regarding Lutheranism

    I – There are essential discrepancies between the Catholic Church and the sects

    II – The sacraments belong solely to the Catholic Church. Outside of the true Church of Christ, the sacraments are as though ‘robbed’ and in an agonizing state, administrated against the will of God

    III – Baptism is licitly administered and received only in the Catholic Church. Only in the Church does it produce fruits for salvation

    IV – The Eucharist brings about unity among the true believers. Heretics may not receive it

    V – Catholic dogma is not subject to change: Truth is greater than explanations and interpretations

    VI – The Catholic Faith versus Lutheran belief

    VII – Extracts of the heretical writings of Martin Luther presented as elements of comparison with the teaching of the Catholic Church


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