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Re: Bergoglio's New Motu Proprio on TLM Has Arrived
« Reply #220 on: July 17, 2021, 07:05:35 PM »
Enough reason to avoid the Eastern Rite.
Wow. just WOW. This is rather off topic for this thread, but you said it.

So, because some priests in the Eastern Catholic Churches are married, which is traditional, that's enough reason for you to avoid all the Eastern Churches, and to say so in a public forum and de facto recommend that to your followers.

Just just judgements, Matthew.

The Roman Rite also has married priests. Including the SSPX.

And the Roman Rite lacks the culture the Eastern Churches has to facilitate married priests.

Re: Bergoglio's New Motu Proprio on TLM Has Arrived
« Reply #221 on: July 17, 2021, 07:49:49 PM »
My guess:
10% SSPX
35% Eastern
55% NOM
0% sede
0% Resistance

I’m surprised that no one thinks the “resistance” will pick up faithful?

These resistance trads can be grouped as Resistance ex-SSPX and independent chapel trads.

Those Catholics who can discern the compromises of the indult Mass (including FFSP and ICK) and the corruption of the Society.
They are mostly independent chapel trads.

A couple of trad men I know have been courting conservative Novus ordo ladies.  In each case, the women are negotiating for the indult Mass as a middle ground compromise.

I would think Bergolio’s TLM ban would destroy the indult option and prove to the ladies that newChurch is degenerate?

Lastly, if no Catholics are coming to resistance chapels, it can only mean we failed in communicating our position.  

And WE are responsible from the top (Bp. Williamson) to the bottom (Sean Johnson).  
Sorry to pick on you Sean  :popcorn:


Re: Bergoglio's New Motu Proprio on TLM Has Arrived
« Reply #222 on: July 17, 2021, 08:02:48 PM »
Hm?  I think and ponder, that seminary in VA was built just in the nic of time. And what will be produced coming from there? hm?  I think that that was all well decided before the first brick was laid.  

Re: Bergoglio's New Motu Proprio on TLM Has Arrived
« Reply #223 on: July 17, 2021, 08:44:47 PM »

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A pair of large vases bearing soccer balls stand at the entrance to Mexico's first Maradonian church and an image of Diego Maradona wearing a charro hat welcomes worshippers.
Inside the church, the Catholic Stations of the Cross are recreated with photos of Maradona from his childhood to emblematic meetings with the late Cuban leader Fidel Castro and Pope Francis.
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Re: Bergoglio's New Motu Proprio on TLM Has Arrived
« Reply #224 on: July 17, 2021, 08:45:11 PM »
Seems the motive behind the Pope's Motu Proprio is to corral the Trads so that those who won't cow can be excommunicated.