Author Topic: Bergoglio's New Motu Proprio on TLM Has Arrived (Read 17081 times)

SimpleMan · « **Reply #255 on:** July 19, 2021, 02:36:09 AM »

Quote from: Against the Heresies on July 19, 2021, 02:08:27 AM

Sermon of Fr. Davide Pagliarani (in Italian)

No parlo italiano (beyond just a few words, I can hack my way through simple written Italian and kinda-sorta get the gist of it).

Is there any way to get a translation of this? Any way it can be run through a kind of voice translator, similar to how the Google Translate app works, through voice recognition and machine translation of the resulting Italian speech-to-text into English?

Incredulous · « **Reply #256 on:** July 19, 2021, 08:31:09 AM »

Quote from: bodeens on July 18, 2021, 11:15:09 PM

Xavier has entered the thread.

What makes this forum run is the diversity of opinions.

Many are late to the trad world and don't know of the SSPX's bone closet.

We need pro-SSPXers here so we can easily shoot down their arguments.

Incredulous · « **Reply #257 on:** July 19, 2021, 08:47:05 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on July 18, 2021, 02:56:24 PM

Interesting discussion about what Tradition means.

So, the original Modernists held that Tradition can be understood differently as time goes by.

But the neo-Modernists put a layer of misdirection on it. "Yes, Tradition, but you have to understand it the way the Church understands it." ... and then proceed to impose their understanding onto it, claiming it's the Church's.

Thus you get where EENS actually means the opposite of EENS, so that if you hold fast to the actual words, it's heretical. If you say that heretics, schismatics, infidels, etc. cannot be saved, you're actually a heretic ... despite the fact that it's precisely what the text says. "See the Church understands by EENS that heretics and infidels CAN be saved, you silly heretic, you."

As various Modernist theologians put spins on things, that "theological consensus" became "how the Church understands it". Which is where Cekadism falls apart.

Wow... "No Salvation Outside the Catholic Church" is a new position for them?

I don't believe they mean it after all their formalized Father Feeney bashing on the topic of EENS.

If you translate what the priest said with the true SSPX code meaning, it is, "No Salvation Outside the SSPX".

They SSPX is too deeply compromised to ever seriously push-back on Francis and newChurch. They've become an order of hirelings.

Fr. Pagliarani and his cohorts are ecstatic because they will soon be officially in charge of the TLM and every trad will bow down to them.

We've seen their plan unfold. It's been in the works for at least a decade.

Incredulous · « **Reply #258 on:** July 19, 2021, 08:48:43 AM »

Quote from: Against the Heresies on July 19, 2021, 02:08:27 AM

Sermon of Fr. Davide Pagliarani (in Italian)

Why is he so happy? Soon to be an approved Pope Francis bishop?

TKGS · « **Reply #259 on:** July 19, 2021, 04:32:51 PM »

Someone said (either on this topic or one of the others) that the traditional Masses bring in so much money that the diocesan bishops won't end them. The poster said it's all about the money.

I've seen reports that three dioceses have, indeed, formally outlawed all traditional Masses.

Frankly, if it were really all about the money, the Conciliar sect would have brought back the traditional Mass within just a couple of years after introducing the Novus Ordo and seeing that it drove millions away. While they care about money, thier first and foremost goal is the destruction of the faith.

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