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Re: Bergoglio's New Motu Proprio on TLM Has Arrived
« Reply #250 on: July 18, 2021, 06:30:56 PM »
I'm not convinced, especially based on what he said today. He preached the same conclusion that many of you have drawn: the SSPX is back to the position it had during the 70s and 80s. He denounced Francis's decision, promoted resistance to the conciliar Church, tore apart the New Mass as evil, and expressed his concern over how the FSSP and ICKSP are going to fare going forward. Nothing he said this morning betrayed a conspiracy of collusion with Francis and the Vatican.

I'm not a fan of his creation theology, but I'm not going to trash the man completely.

Of course, don’t believe my accusations.  I just make this stuff up.

But... it was also Fr. Robinson who let the cat out of the bag in 2011, that Menzingen gave it’s SSPX priest Bi-monthly “talking points” in which to guide their sermons.

This policy was inacted after +W’s h0Ɩ0h0αx affair.  To prevent priests from speaking their Catholic minds, like their seminary teacher, Bp. Williamson.

So, today’s sermons in every SSPX chapel lamented Francis’s motu.  “Oh, and how sad that the indult orders are in jeopardy” :facepalm:

It sounds so good, so traditional, but it’s all fake.

The glaring contradiction is Bp. Fellay’s recent admission that the SSPX is now fully regularized with the Pachamama Pope’s newChurch.

The SSPX would have it’s faithful believe they can have it both ways.

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Re: Bergoglio's New Motu Proprio on TLM Has Arrived
« Reply #251 on: July 18, 2021, 06:55:19 PM »

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Nothing he said this morning betrayed a conspiracy of collusion with Francis and the Vatican.

...this morning...being the operative phrase.  Let's not forget what he's been saying for the past 5 years.


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Re: Bergoglio's New Motu Proprio on TLM Has Arrived
« Reply #252 on: July 18, 2021, 08:07:59 PM »
Please provide the evidence for this.

You can look it up yourself.  There's a clause in there which said that ultimately the decision is that of the bishop.  Your parish priest couldn't just show up on a Sunday for the 10:30 Mass and start in with the "Introibo ad altare Dei".

The only situation where a priest could say the Tridentine Mass wherever he wanted was a private Mass.  And in the practical order, there's such a priest shortage out there that rarely do NO priests have the chance to do private Masses.

Public Masses were still under the control of the bishop.

Re: Bergoglio's New Motu Proprio on TLM Has Arrived
« Reply #253 on: July 18, 2021, 11:15:09 PM »
Xavier has entered the thread.

Re: Bergoglio's New Motu Proprio on TLM Has Arrived
« Reply #254 on: July 19, 2021, 02:08:27 AM »
Sermon of Fr. Davide Pagliarani (in Italian)