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Re: BERGOGLIO'S A CREEP-PROOF
« Reply #60 on: February 26, 2021, 08:16:54 AM »
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  • Dear 2Vermont,
    There are plenty of reasons why I can't resize. Sometimes I am unable to do so when I do want to resize whether you believe it or not.  I am not a liar.

    In addition, honest people can have honest points of view which is why I love reading the viewpoints of people on CathInfo for the most part.
    You have exceeded your honesty by trying now to dictate your preferences in an attempt to place yourself above others in importance.
    You can easily skip over any posts or every post if you choose.  Humble yourself this way, or not as you want.
    Either way,   I am very certain that I do not care to argue with you further about this subject.

    As a sidenote, I rarely downthumb because I prefer to not do so for various reasons.  So, if you receive a downthumb, you can be reasonably assured that it is not me.  I always expect a downthumb when I write here, but that is not so big of a deal that it stops me anyhow.  
    Actually my thread was a request not a dictate (and others agreed with me).  You do not wish to honor that request.  Rather than pontificate about humility perhaps it is you who needs to heed that advice.

    And I already skip over the long, large font posts.  If someone wants to reach all though, I would think they would do their best to re-size.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


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    Re: BERGOGLIO'S A CREEP-PROOF
    « Reply #61 on: February 26, 2021, 08:43:13 AM »
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  • St. Hildegard of Bingen

    “He (the Antichrist) will grant entire freedom from the commandments of God and the Church and permit everyone to live as his passions dictate. By doing so he hopes to be acknowledged by the people as deliverer from the yoke, and as the cause of prosperity in the world. Religion he will endeavor to make convenient. He will say that you need not fast and embitter your life by renunciation…It will suffice to love God…He will preach free love and tear asunder family ties. He will scorn everything holy, and he will ridicule all graces of the Church with devilish mockery. He will condemn humility and foster proud and gruesome dogmas. He will tear down that which God has taught in the Old and New Testament and maintain sin and vice are not sin and vice…He will ally himself with the kings, the princes and the powerful ones of the earth; he will condemn humility and will extol all the doctrines of pride. His magic art will feign the most astonishing prodigies.”



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    Re: BERGOGLIO'S A CREEP-PROOF
    « Reply #62 on: February 26, 2021, 04:18:22 PM »
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  • “And Do Not Abandon Us To Temptation.” A Critical Commentary


    “Roma locuta, causa finita.” As it was easy to foretell, the Italian bishops have fulfilled the wish expressed by Pope Francis to replace an invocation in the Our Father used at Mass, “and lead us not into temptation,” with “and do not abandon us to temptation.”

    The “old” version was not even put to a vote, so that it was impossible to defend it. Because according to Francis it is only the devil who tempts, and it is not admissible that God too could “lead” us - literally, “bring [us] inside,” as in the Latin “inducas” and in the original Greek of the Gospel, “eisenènkes” - into temptation.

    The English version of the “Our Father” in use in the United States has remained faithful to the original evangelical text: “And lead us not into temptation.” While agreeing with the wishes of Pope Francis are both the new translation in use in France and other French speaking countries - “Et ne nous laisse pas entrer en tentation” - and the one in use in various Spanish-speaking countries, including Argentina: “Y no nos dejes caer en la tentación.”

    But to be strictly logical, if God cannot “lead” us into temptation, it is not clear why he should instead be allowed to “abandon us” to it. For two millennia, the Church has never dreamed of changing that difficult word of the Gospel, but has instead interpreted and explained it in its authentic meaning.

    This is the launching point of the reflection that follows.

    Silvio Brachetta, the author, is a diplomat at the Institute of Religious Sciences in Trieste, and has dedicated himself in particular to the study of the theology of Saint Bonaventure of Bagnoregio. He writes for the diocesan weekly “Vita Nuova.”
    *
    A brief reflection on the “new” Our Father
    by Silvio Brachetta

    It is not clear why a God who “leads” us, brings us inside temptation, should be worse than a God who “abandons” us to it. It is a mystery of modern exegesis, but also of human presumption, at least according to the desert father Saint Anthony:
    “One day some of the elders made a visit to Fr. Anthony; with them was Fr. Joseph. Now the elder, to put them to the test, proposed to them a word from the Scripture and began from the youngest to ask them its meaning. Each of them spoke according to his capacity. But to each of them the elder said: ‘You have not found it.’ Last he asked Fr. Joseph: ‘And you, what do you say of this word?’ He replied: ‘I do not know.’ Fr. Anthony then said: Fr. Joseph has indeed found the way, because he has said: ‘I do not know’” (Apophthegmata Patrum, 80d; PJ XV, 4).

    In the Sacred Scriptures there are things that are easy to understand, things that are difficult, and things that cannot be understood: does anyone remember this? No, all forgotten. The literal meaning rules and guides the other meanings of the Scriptures: does anyone remember this? No, all forgotten. The exegesis of texts cannot betray the exegesis of the fathers and doctors of the Church: does anyone remember this? No, all forgotten.

    As for what God does, it should be clear how the God who in the “Our Father” leads into temptation is the same God who has Jesus say: “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?” (Mk 15:34). There is no doubt - and in the magisterium of the Church there has never been any doubt - that the Greek “eisenènkes” of the “Our Father” expresses movement to a place and that the Aramaic “sabactàni” of Mk 15:34 signifies abandonment.

    It is also true that the interpretation of these evangelical passages on the part of Saint Thomas or Saint Augustine may leave the reader dissatisfied, because the doctors know well that “fides at ratio” are in harmony but by no means coincident. Saint Thomas and Saint Augustine examine the mystery, but they do so in humility: at times they are able to satisfy fully and wisely a certain inquiry, but other times they can respond to or satisfy partially those who seek an explanation.

    Contemporary theological activity is often indecent, because it intends to force those inviolable doors of mystery, which Hildegard of Bingen strongly advises not to violate (cf. “The book of the divine works”). Whence so much arrogance? How in the world has the modern theologian become incapable of saying “I do not know” in the face of questions on which God has decreed that the mystery should remain? Even the pagans were often more humble than many of our contemporaries. “I am all that was, is, and will be; and no mortal or god shall ever lift my garment,” says the Sibyl of Plutarch (“On Fate”).

    It is as ancient as the world, the art of forcing or falsifying a text, when the word is incomprehensible or does not meet the expectations of our caprice. But likewise ancient as the world is the art of humility, the art of the faithful scribe, who hands on the voice of God by recopying the Scriptures and seeking to be precise, syllable after syllable, on what has been received from the fathers.

    The truth has been confessed by the saints time and again: the God who “brings us inside” temptation is good, just like the God who “abandons” us to it. And he is good because he hears the prayer of the penitent, who insistently asks: “lead us not, do not abandon us.” God, therefore, does not lead and does not abandon those children who convert and pray to him, but he abandons the impious, who blasphemes him.

    The mystery endures, and the reality of “perdition” - the Hebrew “abbadon” of Revelation (9:11) - cannot be crossed out with a forger’s pen. There exists, therefore, the “angel of the abyss” (ibid), because God permits him to exist, just as he permits hell and the possibility of damnation. Behind the negation of the evangelical “ne nos inducas” is the presumptuous rejection of a scandal: the scandal of the eternal perdition of the impious and the very fact that Christ could be a “stumbling block” himself, in fact a “scandal.”

    (English translation by Matthew Sherry, Ballwin, Missouri, U.S.A.)

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    Re: BERGOGLIO'S A CREEP-PROOF
    « Reply #63 on: February 27, 2021, 09:33:42 AM »
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  • The following sections from pages 97- 99 are excerpted from:
    THE CHRISTIAN TɾυmρET
    OR,
    Previsions and Predictions
    about
    Impending General Calamities,
    The Universal Triumph of the Church,
    The Coming of Antichrist, The Last Judgment, and
    The End of the World.

    COMPILED BY PELLEGRINO [Gaudentius Rossi],
    A MISSIONARY PRIEST,
    WITH SUPERIOR’S PERMISSION.

    BOSTON:
    PUBLISHED BY THOS. B. NOONAND & CO.
    17, 19, and 21 Boylston Street

    Entered according to Act of Congress, in the year 1873,
    BY PATRICK DONAHOE,
    In the Office of the Librarian of Congress, at Washington.

    Page 97
    But impiety is the derangement of human reason. Like the bat, these men are
    rendered more blind by the very light that should convert them to eternal truth.
    They are irritated by disappointment and maddened by failure. In imitation of the
    Jєωιѕн high-priests, chief magistrates, and hypocritical Pharisees, they have
    gathered their clandestine councils, and in their secret conventicles they have said,
    What are we doing? This man, Jesus, doeth many miracles in favor and for the
    protection of his Church, and of his Vicar, the Pope of Rome; if we let him alone
    so, all men will believe in him. (St. John xi. 47.) Their unanimous resolution has
    been to put him and his Church to a speedy and violent death. The death-warrant
    has been signed and issued; the executioners have been selected and appointed; the
    inexorable word of command has been given. Behold, then, the Prussian infidel,
    the Bavarian Döllingerite, and the Italian apostate governments in union with, and
    assisted by, the effete Turkish Empire, and helped by the red republicans of Spain
    and Switzerland, busy in forging weapons and in sharpening their malignant
    tongues against the infallible Vicar of Jesus Christ and against his Holy Church.

    It is not unlikely, but, on the contrary, a well-founded rumor warns us, that an
    attempt will be made at the first opportunity to thrust upon St. Peter’s throne an
    anti-pope, in order to create a schism in the Church Catholic. They have adopted
    the maxim: Division is weakness. Divide et impera. Divide to crush.

    Page 98
    Our invincible hope is founded upon the nature of the Church of Jesus Christ,
    and upon his infallible divine promises. In the world you shall have distress, he
    says, but have confidence. I have overcome the world. (St. John xvi. 33.) Behold, I
    am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world. (St. Matt. xxviii. 18.)
    We Catholics most fully and most firmly believe that Jesus Christ is the Head of
    the Church. He is the Savior of the body. Christ cherisheth the Church, for we are
    members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones, that we may in all things grow
    up in him. (Eph.iv.15.)


    This throne and kingdom of David is the spiritual kingdom of Jesus, namely, his
    Holy Catholic Church. We have learned this truth from the words of the Archangel
    Gabriel, who said to the Virgin Mary: Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found grace
    with God. Behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bring forth a son,
    and thou shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son
    of the Most High; and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of David his
    father, and he shall reign in the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there
    shall be no end. (Luke i. 30.)

    Page 99
    . . . A terrible confusion of ideas and practices predominates in
    every earthly, political, and religious system. The so-called ministers of the
    modern gospel are made and unmade, according to the passing whims of those
    who condescend to sit under their pulpits, and whom these licensed preachers
    study to please and flatter in order to secure a longer lease of their place and salary.
    This fact proves the actual realization of St. Paul’s prophecy, who wrote: There
    shall be a time when they (false Christians) will not bear sound doctrine, but
    according to their own desires they will heap to themselves teachers having itching
    ears, and will turn away indeed their hearing from the truth, and will be turned to
    fables. (2 Tim. iv. 3.)
    The antichristian maxims, adopted by modern sectaries and forced upon civil
    governments, have shorn them of their dignity and strength, and crippled their
    power and energy for good. The sovereign people refuse to be governed, but aspire
    to dominion, and those who should obey, pretend to command. Dignities are
    prostituted to personal ambition, the common good is sacrificed to official rapacity,
    immorality and crime are rather stimulated than checked and punished by many in
    high stations and official power. Humanity groans in a dismal and appalling chaos
    of disorder and misery. The human heart longs for order, stability, security, justice,
    and peace.

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    Re: BERGOGLIO'S A CREEP-PROOF
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  • Reverend Elwood Sylvester Berry

    Reverend Elwood Sylvester Berry was professor at Mount Saint Mary’s Seminary in Maryland. He wrote a number of commentaries on the Bible, including the Book of Revelation.

    "The followers of Antichrist will be marked with a character in imitation of the sign that St. John saw upon the foreheads of the servants of God. This indicates that Antichrist and his prophet will introduce ceremonies to imitate the Sacraments of the Church. In fact there will be a complete organization a church of Satan set up in opposition to the Church of Christ. Satan will assume the part of God the Father; Antichrist will be honored as Saviour, and his prophet will usurp the role of Pope. Their ceremonies will counterfeit the Sacraments and their works of magic be heralded as miracles. A similar project was attempted in the fourth century when Julian the Apostate counterfeited Catholic worship with pagan ceremonies in honor of Mithras and Cybele. He established a priesthood and instituted ceremonies in imitation of Baptism and Confirmation."

    His book can be accessed here:
    (The Apocalypse of St. John [Columbus, OH : John W. Winterich, 1921])

    "The prophecies of the Apocalypse show that Satan will imitate the Church of Christ to deceive mankind; he will set up a church of Satan in opposition to the Church of Christ. Antichrist will assume the role of Messias; his prophet will act the part of Pope; and there will be imitations of the Sacraments of the Church. There will also be lying wonders in imitation of the miracles wrought in the Church."
    (The Church of Christ: An Apologetic and Dogmatic Treatise [Baltimore, MD: Mount St. Mary’s Seminary, 1955])


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    Re: BERGOGLIO'S A CREEP-PROOF
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  • Reverend Elwood Sylvester Berry

    Reverend Elwood Sylvester Berry was professor at Mount Saint Mary’s Seminary in Maryland. He wrote a number of commentaries on the Bible, including the Book of Revelation.

    "The followers of Antichrist will be marked with a character in imitation of the sign that St. John saw upon the foreheads of the servants of God. This indicates that Antichrist and his prophet will introduce ceremonies to imitate the Sacraments of the Church. In fact there will be a complete organization a church of Satan set up in opposition to the Church of Christ. Satan will assume the part of God the Father; Antichrist will be honored as Saviour, and his prophet will usurp the role of Pope. Their ceremonies will counterfeit the Sacraments and their works of magic be heralded as miracles. A similar project was attempted in the fourth century when Julian the Apostate counterfeited Catholic worship with pagan ceremonies in honor of Mithras and Cybele. He established a priesthood and instituted ceremonies in imitation of Baptism and Confirmation."

    His book can be accessed here:
    (The Apocalypse of St. John [Columbus, OH : John W. Winterich, 1921])

    "The prophecies of the Apocalypse show that Satan will imitate the Church of Christ to deceive mankind; he will set up a church of Satan in opposition to the Church of Christ. Antichrist will assume the role of Messias; his prophet will act the part of Pope; and there will be imitations of the Sacraments of the Church. There will also be lying wonders in imitation of the miracles wrought in the Church."
    (The Church of Christ: An Apologetic and Dogmatic Treatise [Baltimore, MD: Mount St. Mary’s Seminary, 1955])

    I forgot to provide the credit for where I got the above as follows:
    https://thewildvoice.org/end-time-prophecies/#Francis

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  • THE CHRISTIAN TɾυmρET

    OR,
    Previsions and Predictions
    about
    Impending General Calamities,
    The Universal Triumph of the Church,
    The Coming of Antichrist, The Last Judgment, and
    The End of the World.

    COMPILED BY PELLEGRINO [Gaudentius Rossi],
    A MISSIONARY PRIEST,
    WITH SUPERIOR’S PERMISSION.

    The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
    Apocalypse, xix, 10.

    BOSTON:
    PUBLISHED BY THOS. B. NOON AND & CO.
    17, 19, and 21 Boylston Street.

    Entered according to Act of Congress, in the year 1873,
    BY PATRICK DONAHOE,
    In the Office of the Librarian of Congress, at Washington.

    CHAPTER VII. pages 120 -121

    PROPHETICAL PREVISIONS AND PREDICTIONS OF THE
    VENERABLE BARTHOLOMEW HOLZHAUSER.

    THE venerable Bartholomew Holzhauser is considered one of the most
    enlightened commentators of the Apocalypse. His interpretation is evidently
    the work of Divine inspiration. Having once been asked where he could have
    received such extraordinary lights for the interpretation of so difficult a book, the
    humble servant of God with tears in his eyes answered: I am nothing but a little
    child, whose hand and pen his teacher holds and guides to make him write. Our
    best guaranty for the prophecies of Holzhauser is the exact realization of his
    predictions referring to events already come to pass.

    Bartholomew Holzhauser was born in Longanau, near Augsburg, in the year
    1613, and died at Bingen, near Mayence, on the 20th of May, 1658. He founded a
    religious congregation of regular priests in the year 1640, which was approved by
    Pope Innocent IX. In the year 1658, he announced that within a short time Catholic
    priests would, under pain of death, be prohibited during one hundred and twenty
    years to say mass in England and in the English American Colonies. In fact, in
    1658 this impious and cruel prohibition was proclaimed in England and only
    revoked in the year 1778, exactly one hundred and twenty years after its
    promulgation. The same royal decree was extended to the American Colonies in
    the year 1663, and lasted until 1783, again one hundred and twenty years’ duration.

    So, likewise, more than one hundred and thirty years before the event, he had
    foretold in the most minute details the French ʀɛʋօʟutιօn of 1789, all of which has
    literally been realized. Let these few but striking instances suffice to enhance our
    confidence in his Apocalyptic interpretations. This venerable man divides the
    periods and the duration of the Church from Jesus Christ until the end of the world
    into seven ages or seven different epochs. He founds this seven-fold division on
    the seven churches of Asia, the seven candlesticks, the seven stars, the seven seals,
    seven spirits, seven Tɾυmρets, seven plagues of the Apocalypse, and also on the
    seven days of creation mentioned in the first chapter of Genesis. According to his
    statement, the first age or special epoch of the Church begins from Jesus Christ and
    lasts until the first persecution under the cruel pagan emperor, Nero; the second,
    from Nero to Constantine the Great; the third, from Constantine till Charlemagne;
    the fourth, from Charlemagne to Charles V, the pontificate of Leo X, and the
    heresy of Martin Luther; the fifth age, from Luther to the Great Pope, Papa
    Angelicus, and the Great Monarch; the sixth will open at the death of these two
    great men, and shall last till the last persecution of Antichrist; the seventh will
    introduce the elect to the eternal sabbath.

    We are at present more immєdιαtely concerned with the fifth age of the Church.
    According to the interpretation of Holzhauser, this age shall soon come to an end.
    During this epoch, he says, faithful Catholics shall be persecuted and oppressed by
    heretics and by bad Catholics. Everywhere shall be experienced deplorable
    calamities and terrible wars. Kingdoms shall be disorganized, thrones upset,
    monarchs killed. Men will cσnspιʀє to proclaim republics, and finally the Church
    of Christ and his sacred ministers shall be despoiled of their property.d
    Are these the predictions of prophecy, or the faithful records of history? Observe
    that the predictions were made by the Venerable Bartholomew Holzhauser about
    three hundred years ago. They have been literally verified, the last portion of them
    under our own eyes. Now that, like Thomas, we have seen and touched, shall we
    believe? Let us now pass to his more hopeful and consoling promises for the
    immєdιαte future.

    “At the sixth epoch of the Church, all unexpectedly shall, through the all powerful
    hand of God, be effected such a wonderful change as to surpass all
    human imagination and expectation. There will be a great and holy pope, and a
    powerful monarch, who will come as the envoy of God to put an end to disorder.
    He will subject everything to his power, and will manifest a great zeal for the
    welfare of the true Church of Jesus Christ. All heresies shall be banished to Hell,
    whence they issued; the Turkish Empire shall be broken up, and all nations shall
    come to and worship their God in the true Catholic and Roman faith. Then true
    love, concord, peace, and perfect happiness will reign supreme upon Earth.

    That powerful monarch will then be able to consider almost the entire world as
    his own inheritance. With God’s special assistance he will free the Earth from the
    presence of wicked men, will repair all ruins and banish all evil. It is he who will
    help to carry to a happy conclusion, after having passed through many tribulations,
    a general council that shall be the greatest and the last of all. He will use all his
    authority to have all its decrees executed. The God of Heaven will bless him, and
    will put everything in his hands.

    (Interpretaton of the Apocalypse, Latin edition of
    Bamburg, 1784, Tom. I. page 184, and Tom. II. Page 6)