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Online Stubborn

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Re: Benedictine Dimond Brothers
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2026, 05:05:46 AM »
 Let's be honest.  Those who refer to them disrespectfully as "Fred and Bob" are not doing so out of principle but due to the contempt they have for the positions taken by the Dimond Brothers or other personal animosity. 
Among other reasons, I call them Fred and Bob mainly because I believe they are lay Catholics, not actually "Brothers" at all. 

Similar to how you and other sedes disrespectfully refer to popes as "Frankie," "Bergie," "Prevost," etc. 

  

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Benedictine Dimond Brothers
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2026, 01:29:08 PM »
I'll be honest. I'm always honest.

I excoriate the Dimond Brothers for their public personal sins ...

You know, that's great and all, but you can't lie and make stuff up while doing it.  Then why don't you call out their public personal sins, as you see them, instead of making garbage up about "Fred and Bob".  That's tantamount to going after Bishop Fellay by calling him Bernie and calling him a fake bishop, even though he's Bishop Fellay and perfectly valid.  Go after the things you're going after instead of hurling sidewinder shit in their direction.  If your charges are valid, they can stand on their own, eh?

I can't stand most of what the CMRI stand for, but I'm not going to start claiming that they're not valid priests (and that their bishop isn't valid) simply because I don't lik other things they do or say.  I'm not going to, oh, attack them for +Shuckhardt, since that was not their fault.  I'm not going to lie and call them Old Catholics, like SSPV do.  Truth is truth.  Just because you don't like their (alleged) public personal sins doesn't entitle you to lie and make shit up.

So, until you either refute what I wrote about their "status" and how it's no different than that of any other Trad religious out there, or else start calling the SSPX sisters you run into "Marge and Nancy", then just stop it with the Fred and Bob crap, since it's dishonest and slanderous.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Benedictine Dimond Brothers
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2026, 01:33:33 PM »
Among other reasons, I call them Fred and Bob mainly because I believe they are lay Catholics, not actually "Brothers" at all.

Similar to how you and other sedes disrespectfully refer to popes as "Frankie," "Bergie," "Prevost," etc.

 

So, we do that because we don't believe they are Popes, nor Bishops, nor Priests, get it?  Here you go again with your same mind-block where you're constantly assuming they are Popes.  They are not Popes, not valid Bishops, and not valid priests, and we have demonstrated that with a huge preponderance of evidence.

I don't call Bishop Fellay "Bernie" just because I don't like what he does or stands for, or refer to Father Cekada as "Tony" simply as a form of insult because I don't like much (or most) of what he has to say.  That's dishonest, a lie, implying that he's not a priest somehow ... and if I have problems with him (and I do), then I call out those problems specifically and don't distract with personal insults.

I DO call the so-called putative "Pope" "Leo XIV" Prevost quite deliberately to make the assertion that he's not a Pope, not a Bishop, and not even a Priest.  If I kept calling him "Pope Leo XIV", that's dishonest, and a betray of my own beliefs and principles.

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Re: Benedictine Dimond Brothers
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2026, 01:50:31 PM »
So, we do that because we don't believe they are Popes, nor Bishops, nor Priests, get it?  Here you go again with your same mind-block where you're constantly assuming they are Popes.  They are not Popes, not valid Bishops, and not valid priests, and we have demonstrated that with a huge preponderance of evidence.
As if your opinion is worth anything, it's certainly not worth more than my opinion.
I do not believe they are valid Brothers, so "Fred and Bob" is proper.

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Re: Benedictine Dimond Brothers
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2026, 02:47:18 PM »
You know, that's great and all, but you can't lie and make stuff up while doing it.  Then why don't you call out their public personal sins, as you see them, instead of making garbage up about "Fred and Bob".  That's tantamount to going after Bishop Fellay by calling him Bernie and calling him a fake bishop, even though he's Bishop Fellay and perfectly valid.  Go after the things you're going after instead of hurling sidewinder shit in their direction.  If your charges are valid, they can stand on their own, eh?

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Just because you don't like their (alleged) public personal sins doesn't entitle you to lie and make shit up.

So, until you either refute what I wrote about their "status" and how it's no different than that of any other Trad religious out there, or else start calling the SSPX sisters you run into "Marge and Nancy", then just stop it with the Fred and Bob crap, since it's dishonest and slanderous.

1. I am not lying. Nor am I making "shit" up, as you so eloquently put it.

2. You are clearly being emotional about the Dimond Bros. Considering your background, age, etc. that is pretty sad. You can do better.

3. I have already gone into detail about my problems with the Dimond Bros. Dividing the Catholic remnant, causing thousands? of Catholics to stay at home rather than attend Mass due to THEIR rhetoric -- that is not a small sin. I'll say it plainly: it's not a venial sin, it's a pretty grave mortal sin. Here's a thought experiment: imagine how many souls have gone to hell because they failed to get the necessary grace, sermons, guidance, good influence, sacramental Confession from a valid priest. If even ONE soul is lost, Our Lord will require it at the hand of these "brothers" whose teaching was to blame. Think of all the souls who were isolated -- like stray sheep -- and then picked off one-by-one by the World, the Flesh, and the Devil. "Thank you, Dimond Bros!" (I'll give you a hint which fallen angel said that!)

4. Personally, I don't go for the "Bob", "Tony", "Frankie" schtick. It strikes me as stupid. The most I would respect would be a sedevacantist calling a Pope by his last name (Prevost, Wojtyla, etc.) Calling a Pope by a diminutive (nickname) of his first name is just childish and disrespectful.

5. I don't care if anyone can claim to be a Benedictine. Even if they are valid Benedictines, then they are examples of Religious on the way to hell. They are a scandal to the Catholic Faith and a huge scandal to Tradition. How many souls have rejected Tradition after confusing Tradition with the Dimond Bros! Only God knows. It is still best, from a spiritual, intellectual, and moral point of view to COMPLETELY ignore and avoid the "Dimond Bros". You will only win by doing so. The truth can be found in many better places, WITHOUT the bitter zeal, poison, schism, and Pharisaism.