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Re: The Novus Ordo and Daniel's 1290 and 1345 days
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2023, 11:05:45 AM »
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    • The Jєωιѕн Temple was destroyed in 69 A.D.; the Novus Ordo was foisted upon us in 1969, an attempt to destroy the New Temple.  If you tack 70 years onto the beginning of the Vat II Council, 1962, that puts us at 2,032.  Vat. II was meant to mock God.  Remember that Paul VI closed the council on Dec. 8, '65, just to put a little mocking jab at Our Lady.  Hard to make a call on the 3.5 years of the antichrist, but we know that the antichrist will gather his 12 anti-apostles.  We live in interesting times. 
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    Re: The Novus Ordo and Daniel's 1290 and 1345 days
    « Reply #16 on: May 10, 2023, 11:16:51 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 02, 2023, 09:13:07 AM
    To me, everything points to 2028/2029.  Roncalli usurped the papacy in 1958.  Add 70 years.  Our Lady made the request for the consecration of Russia on June 13, 1929, and then Our Lord later appeared to Sister Lucy and complained that the Popes were following the example of the Kings of Frances.  So it was 100 years to the day after Our Lord's request for them to consecrate France to His Sacred Heart, the Kings were deposed, and then about 3.5 years later the King was beheaded.  I see the same timeline playing out here.  Some great unravelling will begin to happen starting June 13, 2029, and about 3.5 years later, in early 2033 is when the Church will be finally restored.

    A hopeful surmise. I might well live that long. My user name is Simeon because, as Simeon of old longed to look upon Christ before he died, I long to see the restored Church with my own eyes before I die. I long for it, and hope for it, and I pray for it. I am sure it is coming back with a splendor and a vengeance, but not sure in my own lifetime. 
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    Re: The Novus Ordo and Daniel's 1290 and 1345 days
    « Reply #17 on: May 10, 2023, 11:18:17 AM »
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    • Quote from: OABrownson1876 on May 10, 2023, 11:05:45 AM
    The Jєωιѕн Temple was destroyed in 69 A.D.; the Novus Ordo was foisted upon us in 1969, an attempt to destroy the New Temple.  If you tack 70 years onto the beginning of the Vat II Council, 1962, that puts us at 2,032.  Vat. II was meant to mock God.  Remember that Paul VI closed the council on Dec. 8, '65, just to put a little mocking jab at Our Lady.  Hard to make a call on the 3.5 years of the antichrist, but we know that the antichrist will gather his 12 anti-apostles.  We live in interesting times.

    An even 1,000 years. See Apoc 20:1-3 -


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    And I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit, and a great chain in his hand.  2 And he laid hold on the dragon the old serpent, which is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.  3 And he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should no more seduce the nations, till the thousand years be finished. And after that, he must be loosed a little time. 

    Some other interesting numbers as well. 
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    Rom. 3:25 Whom God hath proposed to be a propitiation, through faith in his blood, to the shewing of his justice, for the remission of former sins" 

    Apoc 17:17 For God hath given into their hearts to do that which pleaseth him: that they give their kingdom to the beast, till the words of God be fulfilled.

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    Re: The Novus Ordo and Daniel's 1290 and 1345 days
    « Reply #18 on: May 10, 2023, 11:40:30 AM »
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    • Quote from: Simeon on May 10, 2023, 11:16:51 AM
    A hopeful surmise. I might well live that long. My user name is Simeon because, as Simeon of old longed to look upon Christ before he died, I long to see the restored Church with my own eyes before I die. I long for it, and hope for it, and I pray for it. I am sure it is coming back with a splendor and a vengeance, but not sure in my own lifetime.

    Hi, Simeon. We've discussed this before, and you know my view. I'm afraid that it will only end with the Second Advent, and not until.

    I guess either way, it's either buckle up, or really buckle up, 

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    Rom. 3:25 Whom God hath proposed to be a propitiation, through faith in his blood, to the shewing of his justice, for the remission of former sins" 

    Apoc 17:17 For God hath given into their hearts to do that which pleaseth him: that they give their kingdom to the beast, till the words of God be fulfilled.

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    Re: The Novus Ordo and Daniel's 1290 and 1345 days
    « Reply #19 on: May 10, 2023, 11:43:08 AM »
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    • Quote from: DecemRationis on May 10, 2023, 11:18:17 AM
    An even 1,000 years. See Apoc 20:1-3 -


    Some other interesting numbers as well.

    :facepalm:

    An even thousand years? I need a new calculator. 
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    Rom. 3:25 Whom God hath proposed to be a propitiation, through faith in his blood, to the shewing of his justice, for the remission of former sins" 

    Apoc 17:17 For God hath given into their hearts to do that which pleaseth him: that they give their kingdom to the beast, till the words of God be fulfilled.

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    Re: The Novus Ordo and Daniel's 1290 and 1345 days
    « Reply #20 on: May 10, 2023, 12:01:35 PM »
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    • Decem,
    Your problem is you are elevating your view above prior, church-approved views.  The Church Fathers are unanimous/doctrinal on many things related to the Apocalypse, one of which is that the antichrist will rule for 3.5 years, which is what Daniel refers to.  This is doctrine.  If you reject this, then you're a protestant.

    Now...if you want to say that your view is an ADDITIONAL symbolic meaning, related to our times vs the antichrist times (which are distinct periods), then go ahead.  I think some verses in the Apocalypse are viewed by the saints as having 5,6, even 7 various interpretations.  But...they all have a primary interpretation which the Church has, through the Church Fathers, told us.

    The point being, Daniel relates to the times of the antichrist, so your novus ordo view is not the primary meaning of these verses.  Because we know, infallibly, that the antichrist will stop the sacrifice for a time, during his 3.5 year reign.  Since the antichrist isn't on the scene, then it cant apply to the novus ordo.
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    Re: The Novus Ordo and Daniel's 1290 and 1345 days
    « Reply #21 on: May 10, 2023, 08:06:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 10, 2023, 12:01:35 PM
    Decem,
    Your problem is you are elevating your view above prior, church-approved views.  The Church Fathers are unanimous/doctrinal on many things related to the Apocalypse, one of which is that the antichrist will rule for 3.5 years, which is what Daniel refers to.  This is doctrine.  If you reject this, then you're a protestant.

    I reject your view of the Fathers being "unanimous" on the 3.5 years, though many did take that position. The Holy Office said the Fathers were unanimous on geocentrism, which we are told was not a binding or an "official" decision by the Church - you can't even adduce anything close to that on your "unanimous on the antichrist 3.5 years."

    And . . . as to your calling me a protestant again. :laugh1: Twice in one day. :jester:

    You're killing me.
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    Rom. 3:25 Whom God hath proposed to be a propitiation, through faith in his blood, to the shewing of his justice, for the remission of former sins" 

    Apoc 17:17 For God hath given into their hearts to do that which pleaseth him: that they give their kingdom to the beast, till the words of God be fulfilled.

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    Re: The Novus Ordo and Daniel's 1290 and 1345 days
    « Reply #22 on: May 10, 2023, 09:55:56 PM »
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    • DecemR,
    It's obvious you haven't read/studied the Church Fathers.  You discard them at your own demise...
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