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Offline Meg

Re: Benedict nearing death?
« Reply #145 on: December 30, 2022, 08:17:12 PM »
Sure, there is nothing wrong with using the term of course.

It's the synthesis of all heresies and Benedict covered most all of them!

I just don't understand how it provides an excuse for blasphemers, heretics and apostates by saying they have some kind of mental illness where they believe they are one thing when in reality they are not. :confused:

In other words, they have apostatized by renouncing the faith and therefore have left the Church but still believe they are Catholic.:confused:

They are leading souls to Hell but believe they are "helping".:confused:

This gives them some sort of pass?

St John had a different name for somebody who denies the Incarnation and the Resurrection of Our Lord Jesus Christ:

"Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denieth the Father, and the Son."
1 John 2:22

Who is giving them a pass? How are you helping the situation by taking a sedevacantist stance? How is sedevacantism going to end the Crisis in the Church? You seem to have the idea that everyone is obligated to take your view of the situation - but we are not obligated to do so.

Offline Yeti

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Re: Benedict nearing death?
« Reply #146 on: December 30, 2022, 08:41:15 PM »
Or already died? Famous people's deaths are usually announced days after their actual death.
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Re: Benedict nearing death?
« Reply #147 on: December 30, 2022, 08:41:45 PM »
I think that someone should send to Ann Barnhardt the video from the Dimond Brothers about Benedict's heresies and bookmark the 5 mnutes or so that Ratzinger spends praising Islam ... as I know that Barnhardt despises Islam.  Of course I'd keep an eye out for people who despise Islam while saying nothing of Judaism, as they're often closet Zionists.  Has Barnhardt ever denounced Jєωs and Judaism?
I'd just like to echo the truth of this by pointing out my own past. When Islamic mass-migration into Europe became increasing apparent to me in the '10s, as I entered my teens, I developed a deep hatred of Islam and a fear that it'd conquer the continent. But, at the time and through that, I saw the Jews as powerful allies. They were harassed by Muslims in the West, and in Israel they fought back against them and constituted the only country in the Middle East where Islam was declining and where Christianity was growing (or so I was told, I never fact-checked that). I was troubled at looking towards non-believers as close allies, but I read some false teachings that said the Jews could still be saved by the Old Covenant, and that was the end of my misgivings. I, similarly but less maliciously, believed that the Orthodox and most other Christians could be saved because their beliefs were "close enough" that God wouldn't mind.

Now that all might sound very dumb, and I wouldn't argue against anyone who thinks that. But I don't think I was a rare case. I think most Catholics formed in the Novus Ordo, but who didn't abandon the faith entirely, went through a similar path as I did. My only points here are as follows: (1) many/most people who, as I once did, focus obsessively on Islam but ignore тαℓмυdism are likely deluded Judaisers, and (2) that if someone is like that, they aren't necessarily malicious, but perhaps misled.

Re: Benedict nearing death?
« Reply #148 on: December 30, 2022, 08:52:44 PM »
How is sedevacantism going to end the Crisis in the Church?
No one ever claims that "sedevacantism" will "solve" this Crisis, as it is a position borne out of simply looking at the state of the Church and realizing that the See must be vacant because such poison could never come through a legitimate claimant. One can be a non-Catholic and be a "sedevacantist." It's recognition of a fact, not a solution in and of itself.

Most Catholics who hold to sedevacantism, that I've seen, tend to leave it up to God to resolve things. As it is a divine institution, not one made by men, so Christ is ultimately in charge here. Unlike the populist position of SSPXers and "Resistance" types who think THEY, as layman and auxiliary clerics, have some say in how the Church is to be run.

All we are doing, as Catholic "sedevacantists", is holding to 2 Thess. 2:14. Things have "paused" since the passing of Pope Pius XII, and awaits a true claimant to resume leadership. As it would if it were a 6 month, 3 year or 100 year interregnum.

Offline Meg

Re: Benedict nearing death?
« Reply #149 on: December 30, 2022, 08:59:34 PM »
No one ever claims that "sedevacantism" will "solve" this Crisis, as it is a position borne out of simply looking at the state of the Church and realizing that the See must be vacant because such poison could never come through a legitimate claimant. One can be a non-Catholic and be a "sedevacantist." It's recognition of a fact, not a solution in and of itself.

Most Catholics who hold to sedevacantism, that I've seen, tend to leave it up to God to resolve things. As it is a divine institution, not one made by men, so Christ is ultimately in charge here. Unlike the populist position of SSPXers and "Resistance" types who think THEY, as layman and auxiliary clerics, have some say in how the Church is to be run.

All we are doing, as Catholic "sedevacantists", is holding to 2 Thess. 2:14. Things have "paused" since the passing of Pope Pius XII, and awaits a true claimant to resume leadership. As it would if it were a 6 month, 3 year or 100 year interregnum.

If it's only a recognition of fact, and not a solution in itself, then why do sedevacantists (many of them) insist that everyone be a sedevacantist? If sedevacantists believe that God will solve the Crisis, then why insist that their way is the only way? It seems to me that sedevacantists are the ones who want to be in charge, or at least in charge of Tradition.