Author Topic: Benedict and his respect for Many Great Religious Traditions (Read 1381 times)

Dawn · « **on:** November 13, 2010, 07:00:46 PM »

Sat, Nov 13 04:15 PM

Nevada (US), Nov 13 (ANI): "Evidence of a close connection between a relationship with God and the ethics of love for everyone is found in many great religious traditions", His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI wrote in his "Verbum Domini" (The Word of the Lord) apostolic exhortation released at Vatican City on November 11.

Talking about "dialogue with other religions", he voiced Catholic Church's respect "for the ancient religions and spiritual traditions of the various continents. These contain values which can greatly advance understanding between individuals and peoples. Frequently we note a consonance with values expressed also in their religious books, such as...in Hinduism, the sense of the sacred, sacrifice and fasting..."

This about 200-page docuмent is addressed to the bishops, clergy, consecrated persons and the lay faithful.

Prominent Hindu statesman Rajan Zed, in a statement in Nevada (USA) today, welcomed Pope's overtures on interreligious dialogue and suggested him to invite world Hindu leaders to Vatican City and enter into a comprehensive dialogue as he had done with few other religions in the past.

Zed, who is President of Universal Society of Hinduism, pointed out that serious and honest interfaith dialogue was the need of the hour. Religion was the most powerful, complex and far-reaching force in our society, so we must take it seriously. And we all knew that religion comprised much more than our own particular tradition/experience.

After intensive deliberations, this proposed meeting of Catholic-Hindu leaders should come up with a concrete plan about the common religious concerns like human improvement, peace, ecological responsibility, social and economic development, etc. Maybe this gathering could become an annual feature after that, Rajan Zed added.

Zed further says that in our shared pursuit for the truth, we can learn from one another and thus can arrive nearer to the truth. Dialogue may help us vanquish the stereotypes, prejudices, caricatures, etc., passed on to us from previous generations. As dialogue brings us reciprocal enrichment, we shall be spiritually richer than before the contact.

Rajan Zed stressed that in the spirit of Synod of Bishops 2008 which recommended "strengthening inter-religious dialogue", Pope should visit a Hindu temple in the near future to promote mutual understanding and respect between the faiths. (ANI)

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St Jude Thaddeus · « **Reply #1 on:** November 13, 2010, 07:36:13 PM »

The Vatican has lost the Faith. It used to be the job of the hierarchy to explain, clarify, and enforce Catholic belief. Since the majority of the clergy of the Conciliar Church no longer believes in the Church's teachings, that task doesn't exist for them any more and so they have to find something else to do to justify their continued existence. Dialoguing for Peace and to End Poverty and Stop Racism and Protect the Environment and so forth fill the gap left by not having to defend the Faith and administer the Sacraments.

All of this is justified in the name of "promoting the social teachings of the Church" and claiming that since charity is the highest virtue, doctrine must needs take second place to promoting the welfare of humanity.

This is the kind of malarky my mother has swallowed hook, line, and sinker.

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #2 on:** November 14, 2010, 12:50:54 PM »

Instead of trying to constantly discover the riches and wonders and greatness in the traditions of false religions, how about we concentrate on restoring the God given Tradition of the true religion?

Catholics are apostasizing left and right, many of those who remain don't even know their own Faith, and we are beginning dialogue with the Hindus who worship demons they think are gods and treat their fellow Hindus of lower castes like dogs? We have much to learn from them??

The Church is a ship taking on water from all sides and instead of taking emergency measures to stop the leaks and right the ship we are sending telegraphs to other ships completely off course headed for destruction hoping to learn from how they do things??

Madness doesn't begin to describe it. Lord help us....

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #3 on:** November 14, 2010, 12:53:58 PM »

Quote from: St Jude Thaddeus

This is the kind of malarky my mother has swallowed hook, line, and sinker.

Jude,

We sound like kindred spirits. I'm surrounded by those like your mother who think I'm insane while seeing nothing wrong in the NO. It is like they are sleepwalking.

I wonder if true Catholics in the time of Arianism experienced this? Did they have friends and family members who just went to the "official" Arian parish because it was close by and think those who followed Athanasius were wack jobs who were way too serious?

And back then wasn't it even more subtle? The same Mass with one word difference? I'd like to read a lot more about this period. It may have hidden advice for those in our time.

St Jude Thaddeus · « **Reply #4 on:** November 14, 2010, 01:17:33 PM »

Stevus, think of all the Scandinavians who eventually "went along" with the imposition of Lutheranism in the 1500's. There was resistance at first, but gradually it mostly died out or those who continued to resist went into hiding or emigrated. Everybody else just "went along" with it. Complicating matters was the fact that because of their remoteness from Rome, many Scandinavians were poorly catechized to begin with and the Deformers cleverly withheld from many the fact that a new religion had been implanted. In parts of Norway until the 1700's some folks continued to call the Protestant service the "Holy Mass" and believed they were still in communion with the Church.

In England the same thing happened with the change to Anglicanism, and in Holland and Switzerland with the switch to the "Reformed" Calivinist sects.

Eventually the vast majorities just "went along" with the changes.

Now, imagine the rewards of those who continued to resist.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 14, 2010, 02:04:30 PM »

The Pope should have respect for only one religion, and that
is the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.

Alexandria · « **Reply #6 on:** November 15, 2010, 11:30:22 AM »

RC53, my dear late Father had a First Holy Communion picture just like that one. He made his First Holy communion in or about 1925.

Dawn · « **Reply #7 on:** November 15, 2010, 11:40:27 AM »

Stevus that should be another thread. What our family members think of all of us. I should say the ones who care (seems it is usually our active Novus Ordo mothers). Sad to say most in my family never think of God unless it is to curse.

Belloc · « **Reply #8 on:** November 15, 2010, 11:47:24 AM »

Quote from: stevusmagnus

Instead of trying to constantly discover the riches and wonders and greatness in the traditions of false religions, how about we concentrate on restoring the God given Tradition of the true religion?

Catholics are apostasizing left and right, many of those who remain don't even know their own Faith, and we are beginning dialogue with the Hindus who worship demons they think are gods and treat their fellow Hindus of lower castes like dogs? We have much to learn from them??

The Church is a ship taking on water from all sides and instead of taking emergency measures to stop the leaks and right the ship we are sending telegraphs to other ships completely off course headed for destruction hoping to learn from how they do things??

Madness doesn't begin to describe it. Lord help us....

true, promote Catholic truth and Action......including Social Reign of Christ and the like..

Alexandria · « **Reply #9 on:** November 15, 2010, 01:30:51 PM »

Quote from: stevusmagnus

Instead of trying to constantly discover the riches and wonders and greatness in the traditions of false religions, how about we concentrate on restoring the God given Tradition of the true religion?

Catholics are apostasizing left and right, many of those who remain don't even know their own Faith, and we are beginning dialogue with the Hindus who worship demons they think are gods and treat their fellow Hindus of lower castes like dogs? We have much to learn from them??

The Church is a ship taking on water from all sides and instead of taking emergency measures to stop the leaks and right the ship we are sending telegraphs to other ships completely off course headed for destruction hoping to learn from how they do things??

Madness doesn't begin to describe it. Lord help us....

Correct. Please choose your prize carefully, as there are no returns allowed. Now, on the first shelf we have carefully preserved copies of the book Good Old Plastic Jesus published at the beginning of the New Springtime of the Church. On the second shelf, a goldmine of artifacts from the sixties, including an autographed picture of the Berrigan Brothers, copies of Thomas Mertons' best selling book that from era Conjectures of a Guilty Bystander, and a draft card that was preserved from being destroyed. On the third shelf (wait for it!!) is the icing on the cake....

Wessex · « **Reply #10 on:** November 16, 2010, 12:11:56 PM »

False ecuмenism in action. I believe the same things were happening fifty years ago. The consequences were obvious. Fifty years on I predict an empty church. Unless Catholics stir themselves.

Alexandria · « **Reply #11 on:** November 16, 2010, 12:27:20 PM »

Quote from: Wessex

False ecuмenism in action. I believe the same things were happening fifty years ago. The consequences were obvious. Fifty years on I predict an empty church. Unless Catholics stir themselves.

This ecuмenism was rampant in Boston under Cardinal Cushing during the (gasp!) fifties. In other areas, the liturgical movement was making great headway. By the time VII came along, the stage was set in the USA, which is why the structure collapsed so quickly.

Catholics stir themselves at this late date? Lotsa luck! You can't even get a traditional Catholic moving without difficulty let alone the typical apathetic novus ordo Catholic.

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #12 on:** November 16, 2010, 08:49:38 PM »

Actually, the American Bishops were pretty conservative during the Council along with the Brits. American Catholicism was still healthy in the 50's though the Modernists made some subtle headway in places. The reason it all fell was that they were conditioned to obey and trust the Church authorities which is normally a good thing. It isn't exactly all their fault that an unprecedented crisis blows up after a terrible Council and a centuries old Mass disappears in front of them as their culture implodes. I'm not sure what Catholic people could survive such a perfect storm with any large degree of success. I think it was a planned chastisement from Heaven that came due to the ignoring of the Fatima Message. The Church and world will continue to go down the crapper until Russia is consecrated.

ger · « **Reply #13 on:** November 17, 2010, 12:23:08 AM »

all the sad consequences and this crisis in the church...however, may i propose that we flood the modernist site and there we talk about this things...coz here we all knew this already.. lets go out for sometime and made our chattings more fruitful least to inform the UNINFORMED!!... GOD BLESS AND CATCH YOU ALL AT SOME MODERNIST SITE... TIME TO END THERE MODERNISM!!!

Telesphorus · « **Reply #14 on:** November 17, 2010, 09:46:23 AM »

Quote from: stevusmagnus

It isn't exactly all their fault that an unprecedented crisis blows up after a terrible Council and a centuries old Mass disappears in front of them as their culture implodes.

The evil the priests did wasn't directly their fault, but don't think what's happened to the Church in the US isn't the fault of Catholics. Particularly the WWII generation and their children.

They were too uncritical in their acceptance of Americanism and "Christian democracy." Too materialistic. Too complacent. Too blind to what was going on, too blind to what they exposed their children to.