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Re: Be of good cheer. Our redemption draweth nigh. Her Immaculate Heart will triumph
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2021, 08:59:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on August 02, 2021, 08:04:16 PM
    And this means that we have to have a detachment even from the idea of a healthy church even though that is what we must strive for. We must be detached from any vindication from those who harmed us.

    (and offer up our suffering)
    If the Church of yore followed Ripperberger's advice, she would've been raped and overrun by the Ottomans, instead of taking the fight to the enemies of God (which is what God warranted via the Holy Crusades).

    Ripperberger is, at best, a coward punk or, at worst, the enemy, within, convincing the Church Militant to roll over and get destroyed.
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    Re: Be of good cheer. Our redemption draweth nigh. Her Immaculate Heart will triumph
    « Reply #16 on: August 02, 2021, 09:55:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: Limoges on August 02, 2021, 05:16:39 PM
    Hence, Our Lord knocking down His captors in the garden 
    No, here's how it happened in John 18: [6] As soon therefore as he had said to them: I am he; they went backward, and fell to the ground.
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    Re: Be of good cheer. Our redemption draweth nigh. Her Immaculate Heart will triumph
    « Reply #17 on: August 03, 2021, 06:23:42 AM »
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    • The indult types think they are in the true Church.
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    Re: Be of good cheer. Our redemption draweth nigh. Her Immaculate Heart will triumph
    « Reply #18 on: August 03, 2021, 01:34:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Hermes on August 02, 2021, 08:58:47 PM
    Ripperger & co. would rather insult the Holy, Pure, Spotless, Immaculate, Blessed Bride of Christ rather than come face to face with reality which is that Whoregαy Bungholio is not a Catholic or even a nominal Christian by any stretch of the imagination and his VII predecessors along with their pedophile sodomy loving prelates are just as phony as he is.
    That is quite an overreaction to a Traditional Catholic priest whose order of exorcists say only the TLM, especially when he is only reiterating the long tradition of saints of our Church who refine their trust in Our Lord by working on the difficult task of detachment from earthly concerns. He is talking about our SPIRITUAL life, charity, forgiveness, trusting in God. We are undergoing a Chastisement right now which God is permitting.
    Please reread what Traditional Catholic priest Father Ripperger said to assist us during this Chastisement which God is permitting. In what way can you possibly deduce that this good priest has in any way "insult(ed) the Holy, Pure, Spotless, Immaculate, Blessed Bride of Christ"?
    He said:
    We cannot allow the problems of the church to affect our spiritual lives. It doesn't matter if someone's put the knife in your back. It doesn't matter how bad things are. If it's starting to affect your spiritual life, you have to get your mind off it. And this means that we have to have a detachment even from the idea of a healthy church even though that is what we must strive for. We must be detached from any vindication from those who harmed us.
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    Re: Be of good cheer. Our redemption draweth nigh. Her Immaculate Heart will triumph
    « Reply #19 on: August 03, 2021, 02:06:18 PM »
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    • The Catholic virtue of detachment is exemplified by the words of Jesus on the Cross, "Let not my will be done, but Thine." Total submission to whatever God permits is also modeled by our Holy Mother "Let it be done unto me according to Thy word." The submission of Our Lady continued during the Presentation of Jesus in the Temple, during which St. Simion told her Her heart would be pierced with a sword.

    Saints on the Catholic virtue of detachment:

    “For true devotion must issue from the heart, and consist in the truth and substances alone of what is represented by spiritual things; all the rest is affection and attachment proceeding from imperfection; and in order that one may pass to any kind of perfection it is necessary for such desires to be killed.” ~St John of the Cross

    Give me ten truly detached men. and I will convert the world with them.” ~St Philip Neri

    “If ever you have a fit of sadness or trouble, remember that it is because you are still attached to life, or health, or some comfort, or person, or thing that you ought to forget and despise that you may desire Jesus Christ only.” ~Saint Claude de la Colombiere

     “Be brave and try to detach your heart from worldly things.” ~St John Bosco

    “Whatever a man loves he inevitably clings to, and in order not to lose it he rejects everything that keeps him from it. So he who loves God cultivates pure prayer, driving out every passion that keeps him from it.” ~St Maximos the Confessor

    “Humility cannot exist without love, and love cannot exist without humility. It is impossible for these virtues to exist except where there is great detachment from all created things.” ~St Teresa of Avila

    https://www.beautysoancient.com/catholic-quotes-on-attachment-detachment/
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    Re: Be of good cheer. Our redemption draweth nigh. Her Immaculate Heart will triumph
    « Reply #20 on: August 03, 2021, 09:52:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on August 02, 2021, 09:55:45 PM
    No, here's how it happened in John 18: [6] As soon therefore as he had said to them: I am he; they went backward, and fell to the ground.
    That was the power of God knocking them down by force. It was to show them that they had no power over God, and physical resistance and reprisals are justified against them for their most unjust arrest of the Most Innocent. The only reason they weren't annihilated at that moment was because Christ's Sacrifice had to take place. I've already explained this to you. All you keep doing is copying and pasting the verse but you offer no refutation.
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    Re: Be of good cheer. Our redemption draweth nigh. Her Immaculate Heart will triumph
    « Reply #21 on: August 03, 2021, 11:18:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on August 02, 2021, 09:55:45 PM
    No, here's how it happened in John 18: [6] As soon therefore as he had said to them: I am he; they went backward, and fell to the ground.

    I AM is the Divine Name.  Once He pronounced it, they were, by the Divine power, knocked down.  That's essentially what Limoges is saying.  Get it?
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    Re: Be of good cheer. Our redemption draweth nigh. Her Immaculate Heart will triumph
    « Reply #22 on: August 04, 2021, 04:27:32 AM »
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    We must be detached from any vindication from those who harmed us.

    (and offer up our suffering)

    If he is applying this to the infiltration of the Church, then he is preaching a false, twisted version of meekness or humility.

    Just for starters, we should have zeal for the truth, and zeal for God. This isn't about US, this is about the TRUTH, the SALVATION OF SOULS, and the RIGHTS OF GOD.
    If it was just "me" that was harmed, it wouldn't matter, as nothing of value was harmed. But it's not Matthew that was harmed, it was the Catholic Church! BIG DIFFERENCE.

    And we must FIGHT for those things (TRUTH, the SALVATION OF SOULS, the RIGHTS OF GOD), not be passive or indifferent.

    Did a priest actually say the things in my quote above? If true, absolutely pathetic and goes to show just how far gone the Conciliar Church is.
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    Re: Be of good cheer. Our redemption draweth nigh. Her Immaculate Heart will triumph
    « Reply #23 on: August 04, 2021, 08:19:57 AM »
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    • Quote from: remy on August 02, 2021, 08:59:21 PM
    Ripperberger is, at best, a coward punk or, at worst, the enemy, within, convincing the Church Militant to roll over and get destroyed.

    THIS^^ here actually epitomizes what Father was speaking about.  There are lots of Catholics in different groups who are all trying to navigate this crisis in different ways.  And the fact that you got two upvotes means that there are others.

    Father Ripperger seems to mean well, and he's very bright and well steeped in Thomistic theology/philosphy.

    I find this attitude of yours, which you have manifested before on other subjects, to be repugnant.  It is not of God, but of the devil, this contempt that you have for all whom you do not judge to be as holy as yourself.
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    Re: Be of good cheer. Our redemption draweth nigh. Her Immaculate Heart will triumph
    « Reply #24 on: August 04, 2021, 08:49:34 AM »
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    • Rev. Garrigou-Lagrange on charity, from "Life Everlasting":

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    Charity is a true friendship, a supernatural friendship, which unites us to God. Already in the Old Testament These words were spoken to the apostles, but also to us. This truth leads us far onward if we are faithful to it. 
    This virtue makes us love our neighbor, since he is loved by God, our common Father, inasmuch as he is a child of God or is called to be a child of God.
    This charity should become ever more rooted in the depths of our soul and thus drive out the unregulated love of self. Charity widens our heart, gives it something of the grandeur of divine goodness, and makes us love, as God does, all men without exception. Yea, more, if a just man were to live on earth for an indefinite time, for millions of years, he could throughout all that time advance in merit, and charity would not cease to grow greater in the depths of his will. 
    St. Thomas expresses this truth in these words: “Charity can always grow greater in itself, because it is a participation in uncreated love and unlimited love. Further it can also always grow as a gift of God, its author, who can always make it grow greater. Lastly it can grow greater by our own cooperation, because the more charity grows the more the soul becomes capable of receiving its augmentation.” This love grows only in order to grow still greater. At times we are capable of experiencing this truth when we are in prayer.
    This page of St. Thomas clarifies the unmeasured depths of our will. Infused charity is rooted ever more deeply, excludes more decisively the unregulated love of self. It drives us on to love ourselves and our neighbor, to glorify God in time and in eternity, on earth, in purgatory, and in heaven. It lets us grow into the immensity of the heart of God. 
    Length corresponds to depth and height. Listen to St. Paul: “Charity never falleth away.” He who believes in Me with a living faith not only will have eternal life, but already has it in germ.
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    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Be of good cheer. Our redemption draweth nigh. Her Immaculate Heart will triumph
    « Reply #25 on: August 04, 2021, 02:10:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on August 04, 2021, 04:27:32 AM
    If he is applying this to the infiltration of the Church, then he is preaching a false, twisted version of meekness or humility.

    Just for starters, we should have zeal for the truth, and zeal for God. This isn't about US, this is about the TRUTH, the SALVATION OF SOULS, and the RIGHTS OF GOD.
    If it was just "me" that was harmed, it wouldn't matter, as nothing of value was harmed. But it's not Matthew that was harmed, it was the Catholic Church! BIG DIFFERENCE.

    And we must FIGHT for those things (TRUTH, the SALVATION OF SOULS, the RIGHTS OF GOD), not be passive or indifferent.

    Did a priest actually say the things in my quote above? If true, absolutely pathetic and goes to show just how far gone the Conciliar Church is.
    Matthew, I agree with what you say. We can pray and fight for the restoration of the Church without VINDICTIVENESS. I think Father Ripperger was saying not to get played by the enemy into sinning against charity and humility.
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    Re: Be of good cheer. Our redemption draweth nigh. Her Immaculate Heart will triumph
    « Reply #26 on: August 05, 2021, 10:16:12 AM »
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    • The fight should have taken place before 50 years of lukewarm ness.  Radio, tv, cell phones, sports, theatre, movies and many false idols. 

    Vatican II was a religion pushed forward by ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs in the church along with satanic liberal Protestants and Rabbis in order to destroy Christianity.  It is has worked.  Many people have rejected Jesus Christ.  
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    Re: Be of good cheer. Our redemption draweth nigh. Her Immaculate Heart will triumph
    « Reply #27 on: August 06, 2021, 10:16:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on August 04, 2021, 08:19:57 AM
    THIS^^ here actually epitomizes what Father was speaking about.  There are lots of Catholics in different groups who are all trying to navigate this crisis in different ways.  And the fact that you got two upvotes means that there are others.

    Father Ripperger seems to mean well, and he's very bright and well steeped in Thomistic theology/philosphy.

    I find this attitude of yours, which you have manifested before on other subjects, to be repugnant.  It is not of God, but of the devil, this contempt that you have for all whom you do not judge to be as holy as yourself.
    Ripperberger is a fool. He's a coward punk, too. The Church would long be dead and all of us speaking Turk, if Ripperberger was pope during the Ottoman invasion.

    You're the Bozo who projects the "holier than thou" attitude onto others. 
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    Re: Be of good cheer. Our redemption draweth nigh. Her Immaculate Heart will triumph
    « Reply #28 on: August 06, 2021, 10:33:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on August 04, 2021, 08:19:57 AM

    Father Ripperger seems to mean well, and he's very bright and well steeped in Thomistic theology/philosphy.

    "Muh Thomistic philosophy !!!"

    He should become well steeped in the Bible and spend less time on "Muh Thomistic theology". 

    The Bible teaches God's children to fight - even physically fight - the enemies of God. It teaches us to arm ourselves and keep watch... 
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