Author Topic: Baptism of Desire (Read 3011 times)

roscoe · « **Reply #15 on:** June 07, 2009, 12:32:00 PM »

Again I am not a theologian but If I remember G Potter's book After Boston Heresy, Fr Feeney was NOT Ex-communicated. So who is correct here. Has anyone else read Potter's book?

Why worry about a BoD controversy that has almost no relavence today when MK Ultra is a vastly more serious problem that Catholics have been ignorant of for far to long.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/illuminati_formula_mind_control.htm

Talk about a serious problem......

roscoe · « **Reply #16 on:** June 07, 2009, 02:00:53 PM »

Acc to G Potter, it is a myth that Fr Feeney was ex-communicated. If Pius XII did not ex-communicate Fr Feeney then that is good enough for me.

roscoe · « **Reply #17 on:** June 07, 2009, 05:29:06 PM »

You are of the opinion which I do not share-- that Pius XII was an anti-pope. Acc to Potter's excellent book, it is a myth that Fr Feeney was ex-communicated. That is good enough for me.

roscoe · « **Reply #18 on:** June 07, 2009, 05:32:01 PM »

As for Boniface, he was protecting the sodomite Templars( same same v2 ʝʊdɛօ-masonic cult) and giving special privlidges to judaics over Catholics. This in addition to the openly blasphemous chair he occupied. An anti-pope for sure.

roscoe · « **Reply #19 on:** June 07, 2009, 06:31:53 PM »

ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is against Catholic doctrine and Boniface was protecting Templars who went against the doctrine. In addition to what has been mentioned b4, more poss evidence of the the anti-pope is the very suspicious abdication of St Celestine.

roscoe · « **Reply #20 on:** June 07, 2009, 06:32:58 PM »

Ther were numerous accusations of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and pedophilia againt Boniface himself as well.

Caminus · « **Reply #21 on:** June 08, 2009, 02:25:08 AM »

Quote from: roscoe

ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is against Catholic doctrine and Boniface was protecting Templars who went against the doctrine. In addition to what has been mentioned b4, more poss evidence of the the anti-pope is the very suspicious abdication of St Celestine.

You make a laughing stock of Catholics in your ignorance. Stop judging and learn some THEOLOGY for crying out loud. You can't even distinguish between something that is supernatural revelation that is strictly de fide and that which is of the natural order of reason and morality.

I can't continue, there is too much stupidity packed into this post.

roscoe · « **Reply #22 on:** June 08, 2009, 01:54:37 PM »

ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is heretical amongst other things. If you aid and abet heresy you are just as guilty as the heretic and we all know that. Even if Boniface wasn't a homo homself( like the notorious Spellman) he was covering for it and making a mockery of Holy Church by giving special privlidges to judaics over Christians and openly displaying blasphemous K Templar images. In addition, his very election is highly questionable as the abdication of St Celestine is most likely fraudulent.

Unam Sanctam-- big deal. The policy of submitting to the Pope had already been around for 1200 yrs and there is nothing new or original in the Bull.

roscoe · « **Reply #23 on:** June 08, 2009, 02:15:53 PM »

Caminus-- are you one of those who thinks the Templars innocent?

roscoe · « **Reply #24 on:** June 09, 2009, 12:34:42 PM »

I believe there is an Biblical phrase that begins... by their fruits.....

The ACTIONS of Boniface show he was protecting Homos. End of story. This is in additon to giving special privlidges to judaics over Christians and the openly blasphemous symbol displayed on his 'throne'.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 09, 2009, 03:46:23 PM »

We really need some fresh blood in here.

Anything having to do with the Templars is an OPINION. Some say the evidence about their devil-worship was doctored, and that Boniface worked with Phillip the Fair to steal their wealth. I'm sure we'd be better off now if Templars controlled the world's wealth instead of the Jєωs.

It is interesting that Boniface and Phillip both died horribly within a year after persecuting the Templars.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #26 on:** June 09, 2009, 03:54:52 PM »

St. Celestine had to be DRAGGED out of his cave, he had no wish to be made Pope. His abdication is not even remotely suspicious. They say Boniface shut him up in some tiny little cell but it sounds to me like that's what the ascetic Celestine wanted.

Or maybe Boniface killed him. But as Catholic Martyr said, the immorality of a Pope does not make him a heretic. Pope Vigilius before becoming Pope was said to be involved in a murder... Of a Pope! He defended the Monophysites against the Catholics. THen hen he became Pope, he reversed himself completely. The Holy Spirit guided him and he went to war with the Monophysites. The same process happened with Pius IX who was quite liberal before becoming Pope, and then changed, the great responsibility of the Office impressing truth on his soul.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #27 on:** June 16, 2009, 03:48:13 AM »

Quote from: DeMaistre

Who believes in "Baptism of Desire" (and why)? (I do not)

St. Thomas Aquinas does. Why? Go read his own words on the matter.

St. Alphonsus Liguori does, too. Again, read his own words.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #28 on:** June 16, 2009, 03:50:33 AM »

Quote from: Catholic Martyr

Quote from: spouse of Jesus
I just wanted to say that believeing in BOD will not send us to hell, will it?

Yes it will. It is heresy against divinely revealed, infallibly defined dogma.

spouse,

Do not listen to this man. He knows not whereof he speaks.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #29 on:** June 16, 2009, 03:51:54 AM »

CM,

Are Sts Thomas and Alphonsus actually in hell? They TAUGHT BoD.