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Baptism Again?
« on: August 03, 2013, 08:43:23 PM »
Is it necessary to be baptized again or conditionally baptized after receiving a "baptism of desire"?

Baptism Again?
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2013, 09:49:36 PM »
Baptism of desire is only efficacious if you die.  In other words it has no result at all unless you die, BOD is not a sacrament.  Everyone needs Baptism of water, the sacrament.  BOD/BOB are only effective out of necessity, when a person is planning on being baptized or has the desire to be; because of circuмstances beyond their control they were not able to receive the sacrament before their unexpected death.  

Not even conditionally baptized, but the administration of baptism is a must.  

The ideal is the SACRAMENT of baptism.  


Baptism Again?
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2013, 11:04:31 PM »
Quote from: Isaac Jogues
Is it necessary to be baptized again or conditionally baptized after receiving a "baptism of desire"?


Seriously?

We confess one Baptism for the remission of sins. And it's gotta be water.

Baptism Again?
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2013, 11:09:38 PM »
Quote from: MyrnaM
Baptism of desire is only efficacious if you die.  In other words it has no result at all unless you die, BOD is not a sacrament.  Everyone needs Baptism of water, the sacrament.  BOD/BOB are only effective out of necessity, when a person is planning on being baptized or has the desire to be; because of circuмstances beyond their control they were not able to receive the sacrament before their unexpected death.  

Not even conditionally baptized, but the administration of baptism is a must.  

The ideal is the SACRAMENT of baptism.  


Can you please direct us to the infallible teaching that BOD only applies if the person dies.

Baptism Again?
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2013, 11:38:03 PM »
Quote from: Isaac Jogues
Quote from: MyrnaM
Baptism of desire is only efficacious if you die.  In other words it has no result at all unless you die, BOD is not a sacrament.  Everyone needs Baptism of water, the sacrament.  BOD/BOB are only effective out of necessity, when a person is planning on being baptized or has the desire to be; because of circuмstances beyond their control they were not able to receive the sacrament before their unexpected death.  

Not even conditionally baptized, but the administration of baptism is a must.  

The ideal is the SACRAMENT of baptism.  


Can you please direct us to the infallible teaching that BOD only applies if the person dies.


All you have to do is google the words "baptism of desire" and you can take your pick as to what you want to read.  However, I will look through my home library here to see if I can find a better easy to understand source tomorrow.

In the meantime, think about this:  Imagine in the eyes of God, what do you think He thinks about...
  A baby being water baptized, which BTW is the Ideal, but just for the sake of reasoning.
1.  A baby with NO desire to be baptized, but is water baptised.

2.  Another person who has reached the age of reason with the desire to be baptized but just hasn't done it yet.

They both die suddenly.  God who is all merciful, and just, what would He do?

Not saying we know everything that  God would do, but since we do know He is All mercy and just, what do you think matters to Him.