Author Topic: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc (Read 509936 times)

MiracleOfTheSun · « **Reply #785 on:** August 23, 2026, 09:56:37 PM »

I recently read Bella Dodd's School of Darkness and when she started seeing the holes in Communism the party created a non-stop smear campaign against her. And she had been an important figure in the movement. The continuing, non-stop smear campaign against +Thuc for doing the consecrations and declaring the See vacant is right in line with that Kommie model (and the murder of his family by them). Mindszenty was also marginalized and dropped like a rock by Pope Saint Paul VI after resisting Communism. Very interesting similarities.

Persto · « **Reply #786 on:** August 24, 2026, 10:35:23 AM »

From the transcription of the video: Mark 24:00

Bishop Zamora's Response to the Alleged Carthage Renunciation Letter of Abp. Thuc

"However, in a letter dated April 12, 1985, Monsignor Zamora refuted this false statement, writing: "It is true that the current hierarchs of the new church have lost their standing as witnesses to the truth, as a result of their drifting away from the True Faith. I state this firmly, knowing full well that they constantly lie in public—as in the case of the declaration by Monsignor Thuc proclaimed by progressive clergy, in which his retraction appears, and in the case of reports published in an Acapulco newspaper with very prominent headlines, where they also lie publicly."

"Later, I learned that they had rehabilitated Monsignor Thuc. The Vatican stated that he had formally retracted his position. They subjected him to a degree of secret surveillance, and tried to lure him to the Vatican in various ways, attempting to isolate him so that he would not consecrate other bishops. It was as if the city itself were his prison—or worse."

"Monsignor Thuc himself once revealed to us in Munich that the local bishop had invited him to concelebrate Mass in the cathedral on a Thursday, and he accepted the invitation the Eastern courtesy to which he was accustomed, but he did not pronounce the words of consecration. He pronounced the words of the Latin formula he had always used; he did not do so on several occasions—or frequently, as his detractors claim—but his declaration was sincere, and we have we accepted with pleasure; we thanked him for revealing such important information to us, and we are convinced of his episcopal sincerity."

"If he committed a scandalous sin, it was a transgression and not a crime, as his detractors claim; first of all, Monsignor Thuc was not suspected of heresy for having participated in a non-Catholic act of worship with the intention of becoming a progressive heretic; indeed, according to Canon 1258, paragraphs 1 and 2 of the 1917 Code of Canon Law, the faithful are not permitted to attend actively or to take part in any way in non-Catholic sacred rites; passive or merely material presence at the ceremonies of a heterodox form of worship may be tolerated for reasons of courtesy or social obligation; this reason must be serious, and in cases of doubt, submitted to the judgment of the Ordinary; it is thus permitted to attend the funerals and weddings of non-Catholics, as well as similar solemn occasions, provided that any danger of perversion or scandal is avoided."

"I continue reading the text by Monsignor Zamora: "His (+Thuc) conservative stance speaks in his favor from the outset. Moreover, it seems very strange to me that he was rehabilitated by the Vatican at his own personal request; so much has been said against him, just as were said against us regarding Archbishop Thuc. He died on December 13, 1984, and as you surely know, progressives in the Vatican and elsewhere in America widely published a retraction attributed to Archbishop Thuc. I read it and immediately realized it was fake because of the style in which it was written; it was neither Archbishop Thuc's style nor that of any other Catholic bishop, but rather a progressive style. Almost immediately, the newspaper *Novedades* of Acapulco published a rehash of the story and added that Archbishop Thuc had written to Archbishop Carmona asking him to retract as well. That letter is obviously fake; Archbishop Carmona stated that he never received any such letter, and that even if he had, he would have disregarded it because Archbishop Thuc was in the hands of his captors—who were progressive priests. From January to December 1984, Archbishop Thuc never bowed to the Vatican, unlike Archbishop Lefebvre. The circuмstances of Archbishop Thuc's death following his abduction warrant a lengthy commentary due to the two apocryphal docuмents attributed to him by his captors."

"One clearly sees the mafia-like methods of the Conciliar sect. So, to all of you listening to us—brothers—pay close attention to all the... ...lies that people choose to tell you about Archbishop Thuc, for that matter-because—well, although many haven't heard of it, since—we have to admit—it is essentially a topic for "insiders," so to speak, as soon as one starts digging into the question of Sedevacantism, there’s always some busybody showing up somewhere with their share of slander—yeah, for sure. "

Incredulous · « **Reply #787 on:** August 24, 2026, 11:30:18 AM »

Archbishop Thuc had a distinct writing style that was both interesting and eloquent.

JPII's jewChurch operatives who kidnapped and murdered the Archbishop were essentially gang thugs.

And the fake retraction was created by Consiliar henchmen who lacked any sophistication in the dark art of forgery.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #788 on:** August 24, 2026, 04:13:52 PM »

Quote from: Persto on August 24, 2026, 10:35:23 AM

Almost immediately, the newspaper *Novedades* of Acapulco published a rehash of the story and added that Archbishop Thuc had written to Archbishop Carmona asking him to retract as well. That letter is obviously fake; Archbishop Carmona stated that he never received any such letter, and that even if he had, he would have disregarded it because Archbishop Thuc was in the hands of his captors—who were progressive priests.

This completely discredits the other letter as well, since the fact that they lied about the letter to +Carmona clearly demonstrates a mendacious agenda to make it LOOK as though he had recanted.

I saw a picture of +Thuc taken at Carthage, and he look demoralized, deeply said, and even glazed over, as if drugged. God knows whether they tortured him like the Commies did with many good Catholic bishops behind the Iron Curtain. +Thuc wasn't in bad shape when they kidnapped him ... so the fact that he died not too much later suggests that he may have tortured.

Persto · « **Reply #789 on:** August 25, 2026, 07:44:04 AM »

https://vn-buddhist.blogspot.com/2013/02/thich-nhat-hanh-kp-agent-in-monks-robes.html

The Buddhist infiltration was so successful, it is probable that the Communist Party (CP) would also plant and use clandestine Communists as Catholic priests to control the Vietnamese in Vietnam and the US in order to exert control and influence public opinion. This is true of PVI's appointment of Bp. Philippe Nguyen-Kim-Dien, who was appointed coadjutor bishop of Abp. Thuc's diocese and later as his replacement, and who over time squandered what his predecessor, Abp. Thuc had done for the Church.

Is this also the case for the priests in Carthage where Abp. Thuc was taken? In their efforts to have Abp. Thuc renounce his episcopal consecrations, they also tried to erase what Abp. Thuc had done for the Church. There is virtually no mention of Abp. Thuc on the Carthage website. They have erased his memory for the most part, and even though he was a well known Vietnamese Archbishop, and from the family of President Diem, his presence there in Carthage has been memory holed. It seems they don't want even Vietnamese conciliar Catholics to know about him, and his life.

In the many Vietnamese videos on the internet, Abp. Thuc is always lauded for his supposed renunciation of his episcopal consecrations and supposed reconciliation with the conciliar church of JPII. This accepted narrative has been reinforced, just like it has for conciliar Catholics around the globe who are ignorant of the true crisis that followed in the wake of Vatican 2. In this manner, Abp. Thuc is used as an example of the wayward Bishop who repents and returns to the "Church," rather than the sole courageous Sede Vacante bishop who understood the crisis, and who stepped forward and was willing to use his episcopal power to consecrate bishops to preserve the true Catholic Church.

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