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Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #710 on: August 11, 2026, 09:45:02 AM »
Excommunicated? by who? the same conciliar Church that you dont recognize?
And you have never heard of them because you are uneducated. And while there is nothing wrong with that, its the wallowing in it like you do have an education in these matters that is prideful.

Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #711 on: August 11, 2026, 11:40:31 AM »
The list cited by TGK is very misleading.
Palmar de Troya  192: They were excommunicated after the 1976 consecrations of 5 bishops, and yet they are listed as almost half of the 400+ consecrations on this list. Has no relevance to True Catholicism.

The following list also is problematic, and disputed even by Abp. Thuc:
Independent (Laborie)  Jean Laborie  ~80–100+
Low reliability due to ISM obscurity, but highly prolific activity.
Independent (Datessen)  Christian Datessen  ~50–70+   Low reliability. Includes Gnostic and Old Catholic
Other Independent  Kozik, Fernandez, et al.  ~30   -Never even heard of him!
That amount:= 130-200

So there you have 392 "consecrated" that are either disputed or inaccurate.  And the true Catholic lineage of Abp. Thuc  as listed is 39 and may be slightly more than 40 if any consecrations have occurred that are not on the list.


Nice critical review of the "fake 400" Persto!

This represents a good base for more public, (substack) rebuttals of the psyops defamations of Archbishop Thuc.

We notice that when light shines on a psyops troll, he can only complain and slither away.


Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #712 on: August 11, 2026, 11:43:49 AM »
What's "nice" about it?

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Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #713 on: August 11, 2026, 04:33:08 PM »
So, the only consecrations (after the pre-Vatican II ones) certainly performed by Archbishop Thuc were ...

(Palmar) +Dominguez, +Corral, +Puga
+Guerard des Lauriers
+Carmona / +Zamora

he did perform a small number of ordinations

There was a bunch of nonsense made up by some gnostic / Celt / Old Catholic types where they pretended to have been consecrated mostly in 1982 by +Thuc, so shortly after the consecrations of +Guerard des Lauriers and +Carmona / +Zamora, but nearly all of them were only claimed after +Thuc had died.  Why 1982?  By 1983, +Thuc had moved to the US and any purported consecrations there at that time would have been able to be debunked by the Franciscans there.  Even in Boyle's list, nearly all of them are listed as possibly / likely bogus, since there was very little evidence, and in some cases they could be debunked easily by people like Dr. Heller, who could attest that +Thuc was in such-and-such a location at the time of some alleged consecrations, often out of the country, nowhere close to where the consecrations were alleged to have taken place.  Why did they wait until after +Thuc died to announce they had been consecrated?  Undoubtedly because someone might have just gone to ask +Thuc whether or not he had done it.

+?Kozik & +?Fernandez are strange also, since they had been consecrated by the Palmar group, and desipte the fact that +Dominguez and +Corral had no training or experience, one of the first 3 consecrands there was +Puga, who had in fact been a properly trained pre-Vatican II priest, so that +Puga being a co-consecrator (all 3 of them consecrated those large batches to which Kozik belonged) rendered their validity morally certain.  So if they doubted their consecration at Palmar, they would also have doubt about directly receiving conditional from +Thuc.  I think they just visited +Thuc to legitimize themselves shortly after +Dominguez "came out" as pope. and so anyone who had been associated with Palmar was considered discredited.  They likely went to see +Thuc just to get associated with him and no longer be discredited.

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Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #714 on: August 12, 2026, 06:58:03 AM »
So, the only consecrations (after the pre-Vatican II ones) certainly performed by Archbishop Thuc were ...

(Palmar) +Dominguez, +Corral, +Puga
+Guerard des Lauriers
+Carmona / +Zamora

he did perform a small number of ordinations

There was a bunch of nonsense made up by some gnostic / Celt / Old Catholic types where they pretended to have been consecrated mostly in 1982 by +Thuc, so shortly after the consecrations of +Guerard des Lauriers and +Carmona / +Zamora, but nearly all of them were only claimed after +Thuc had died.  Why 1982?  By 1983, +Thuc had moved to the US and any purported consecrations there at that time would have been able to be debunked by the Franciscans there.  Even in Boyle's list, nearly all of them are listed as possibly / likely bogus, since there was very little evidence, and in some cases they could be debunked easily by people like Dr. Heller, who could attest that +Thuc was in such-and-such a location at the time of some alleged consecrations, often out of the country, nowhere close to where the consecrations were alleged to have taken place.  Why did they wait until after +Thuc died to announce they had been consecrated?  Undoubtedly because someone might have just gone to ask +Thuc whether or not he had done it.

+?Kozik & +?Fernandez are strange also, since they had been consecrated by the Palmar group, and desipte the fact that +Dominguez and +Corral had no training or experience, one of the first 3 consecrands there was +Puga, who had in fact been a properly trained pre-Vatican II priest, so that +Puga being a co-consecrator (all 3 of them consecrated those large batches to which Kozik belonged) rendered their validity morally certain.  So if they doubted their consecration at Palmar, they would also have doubt about directly receiving conditional from +Thuc.  I think they just visited +Thuc to legitimize themselves shortly after +Dominguez "came out" as pope. and so anyone who had been associated with Palmar was considered discredited.  They likely went to see +Thuc just to get associated with him and no longer be discredited.
Thank you for the info on +?Kozik and +?Fernandez