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Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #545 on: July 01, 2026, 11:41:25 PM »
Archbishop Thuc's talents and competencies were extraordinary.  I don't think +ABL had been graced with so many gifts.

But for the revolution's watchdogs, long embedded in the trad world, the, Archbishop had to be labeled "mentally incompetent".

Allowing a solo Vietnamese who wasn't beholden to a European network like the Black Nobility (Mafia princess Pallivicini)  to contribute to the continuity of the Faith was intolerable. 

This line of Apostolic succession could not be controlled, so it had to be derided at all costs.

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Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #546 on: July 02, 2026, 03:33:05 PM »
More on Abp. Thuc's Early Years  (Continued)
Abp. Thuc did not sit still in the bishop's residence but traveled to various parishes, visiting poor households and kindly inquiring about the priests.  He encouraged the faithful during difficult times and war. For 23 years as Bishop of Vinh Long, Bishop Ngo Dinh Thuc sowed countless seeds of faith, nurturing them in seminarians, religious, and lay people.  Those who would later become spiritual pillars for this land of Alluvium. But his mission did not end there.  A greater turning point awaited him as the history of the Catholic Church in Vietnam transformed, and the Holy See in Rome decided to place a heavier mission on the shoulders of this soldier of Christ. 

In 1960, a momentous event changed the face of the Catholic Church in Vietnam. The Holy See officially established the local hierarchy, laying the foundation for a more mature and autonomous Catholicism. For the first time, three archdioceses, nine dioceses headed by Vietnamese people were established: Hanoi, Hue, and Saigon. In that historic decision, Bishop Peter Martino Ngo Dinh Thuc was promoted to Archbishop, taking responsibility for leading the Archdiocese of Hue, a place closely associated with his life, homeland, and early faith journey.

On May 12, 1961, Archbishop Thuc officially took up his mission in Hue.  Amidst the resounding orange bells on the romantic Perfume River, he returned to the land of his birth, but this time not as a priest or a preacher, but as the supreme shepherd of the entire archdiocese. In the history of the Vietnamese Church, he was the first Vietnamese person to hold the position of Archbishop of the Archdiocese of Hue. A milestone that moved many parishioners of the ancient capital to tears.

Upon returning to Hue, he immediately began the comprehensive reconstruction of both the physical infrastructure and the life of faith.  The first and most significant project was the complete restoration of the cathedral.  The ancient church, built in the late 19th century had seriously deteriorated over the years. Archbishop Thuc did not hesitate to have it completely demolished and rebuilt according to the design of architect Ngo Viet Thu, a renowned figure in Vietnam and also a Catholic. The new church was designed to be both modern and solemn, while retaining traditional features, becoming a symbol of Christian faith in the heart of Co Do.  Not stopping there, he had the bishop's residence and the seminary renovated, and the Phu Xuan seminary, where he himself had studied and taught. With a strategic vision, he invited priest professors from the Xuan Bit Society from overseas to teach, improving the level of priestly training. He also established the Hoan Thien Minor Seminary, named after two saints from the faith, Doan Trinh Hoan and Tran Van Thien, to inspire love for witnesses of faith in the younger generation.

A sacred and virtuous atmosphere permeated the entire archdiocese. Small schools sprang up, and religious orders were strengthened and united. In 1962, he unified six scattered convents of the Holy Cross in Di Loan, Tam Toa, Ke Bang, Phu Cam, Duong Son and Tri Buu to establish the Missionary Sisters of the Holy Cross of Hue, later the Hue Holy Cross. That event was not just an administrative event but a turning point in spiritual life, leading the nuns on a journey of commitment, training and service with countless sorrows. 


In particular, Archbishop Thuc devoted great effort to La Vang, the place where the Virgin Mary appeared, the most sacred place for Vietnamese Catholics. He expanded and beautified the La Vang area into a national-level pilgrimage center.  He earnestly requested the Holy See to elevate La Vang Church to the status of a basilica, a prestigious title that affirms the sacred importance of this place in the life of faith. At the same time, he founded the monthly magazine Our Lady of La Vang, a collection of Catholic writers, recording testimonies, stories and teachings of Mother Mary, creating a living source of information that spread throughout the parishes.

A shepherd among the people, Archbishop Thuc also thought far ahead about education and healthcare. He built six private high schools in the archdiocese, open to not only Catholic students but also those of other religions.  He established the A Thanh Minh nursing home in Vinh Long, the Saint Phe nursing home in Saigon, along with many social centers, community centers reading and lecture halls for young people and the poor.  During that period, the Archdiocese of Hue shone brightly like a vineyard laden with fruit.  Each religious order, each seminary, each parish was cared for with a spirit of discipline but full of love. In the eyes of the lay people, Bishop Thuc was not only a leader but also a father, a builder of culture and faith, a restorer of Vietnamese Catholic identity after long years under the control of foreign missionaries. However, even in the light, there were lurking shadows ahead.

Archbishop Ngo Dinh Thuc was not only a pastor, a scholar, and a spiritual builder, but also the elder brother of President Ngo Dinh Diem, who headed the Republic of Vietnam government from 1955 to 1963.  This blood relationship inadvertently placed the Archbishop in a very delicate position on the fragile boundary between religious affairs and political influence.  Years earlier, when Diem was imprisoned by the French, Bishop Thuc courageously wrote a letter to the Governor-General of Indochina earnestly requesting a pardon for his brother. In the letter, he not only cited familial affection but also mentioned the loyalty of his Ngo ancestors to France, from the years when his father, Mr. Kha, participated with Nguyen Than in suppressing the Phan Dinh Phung rebellion. The letter is like a voice of conscience, both deeply rooted in family affection and heavy with historical significance.  People saw in Bishop Thuc a man who knew how to fully preserve brotherly affection, while also possessing great courage and political wisdom.

In the final moments of the 1940s and early 1950s, when Vietnam fell into the great storms of war and political transformation, Bishop Thuc was the one who actively campaigned for his brother to be protected and supported.  When Diem was threatened with arrest by the French for his anti-colonial sentiments, Bishop Thuc approached the Japanese, hoping they would intervene.  Thanks to this, Diem was not arrested and was even invited by the Japanese to form a government. Although Diem refused.  These events are enough to show that Bishop Thuc did not stand on the sidelines of politics but participated directly, not for power for his close friend, but to pave the way for a national vision according to the ideals of the Ngo family.


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Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #547 on: July 02, 2026, 04:35:50 PM »

Ngo Dinh Diem (second from right) and Bishop Ngo Dinh Thuc (third from right) in Japan, August 28, 1950

More on Abp. Thuc's Early Years  (Continued)
In 1950, Bishop Thuc, along with Diem made a trip to the United States and then to Rome for the Jubilee Year. On May 14th, the Ngo brothers left Saigon to go to Japan to meet the former emperor, a trip with strong political implications.  Although veiled under the guise of religious diplomacy, amidst a divided Vietnam and an unfinished struggle for independence.  The Ngo brothers left Saigon to go to Japan to meet the former emperor, a trip with strong political implications, although veiled under the guise of religious diplomacy, amidst Vietnam's division and unfinished struggle for independence. 

When Diem came to power as president in 1955, Bishop Thuc did not hold an official role in the government, but no one can deny that he was a figure of special influence.  People came to him to ask for blessings, protection, and intervention for their relatives.  The press at the time described the Archbishop's office as a constant haunt of Southern officials. In an interview with ICE magazine on April 15, 1963, he said, "My desk is piled high with applications, asking me to intervene for them on this or that behalf of others. Sadly, they are often just worldly matters. I cannot remain indifferent to their appeals. This influence extends not only within the Church but also into politics."

In 1963, on the occasion of the 25th anniversary of Archbishop Thuc's episcopate, the entire government of the Republic of Vietnam organized an unprecedented silver jubilee celebration.  A silver jubilee committee was established, headed by the Chairman of the National Assembly himself, with the participation of many ministers and prominent figures. A lavish banquet was held in Saigon, with each guest paying 5000 dong, equivalent to half an ounce of gold at that time, to attend. A religious event became almost a national holiday. Admirers praised it as a celebration of faith. Critics argued that it was a manifestation of a dangerous combination of Church and power. 


Also in 1963, Archbishop Thuc, was called to Rome to attend the Second Vatican Council.  From Rome he heard the news of the CIA coup on November 2, 1963, the assassination of his brothers Diem and Nhu, and the Republic government collapse to the Communists. When the Council closed, he could no longer return to Vietnam. According to Thục, the Americans forced the South Vietnamese government to refuse him permission to return, and that Paul VI used this inability to return to force him to resign and appoint communist sympathizer, Bishop Philip Nguyen Kim Dien in his place.   

The shepherd who had built so many works of faith, who had been steadfast in the ideals of a soldier of Christ, now alone in a foreign land, without an appointment decree, bishop's seat, flock to care for, and no means of support.  Yet the Holy See still bestowed upon him a symbolic honor.  In 1968, he was appointed titular archbishop of Saesina, an ancient diocese that no longer existed.



Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #548 on: July 02, 2026, 06:00:40 PM »
Archbishop Thuc's talents and competencies were extraordinary.  I don't think +ABL had been graced with so many gifts.

But for the revolution's watchdogs, long embedded in the trad world, the, Archbishop had to be labeled "mentally incompetent".

Allowing a solo Vietnamese who wasn't beholden to a European network like the Black Nobility (Mafia princess Pallivicini)  to contribute to the continuity of the Faith was intolerable.

This line of Apostolic succession could not be controlled, so it had to be derided at all costs.
Simulating Sacraments is not a talent

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Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #549 on: July 03, 2026, 10:53:10 AM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tran_Dinh_Truong
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/nytimes/name/truong-tran-obituary?id=32700315
https://grokipedia.com/page/tran_dinh_truong


Truong Dinh Tran
More about the man who was instrumental in the kidnapping of Abp. Thuc

Trường Đình Trần (January 5, 1932 – May 6, 2012), was a Vietnamese American  businessman and hotelier.  Starting in the 1970s, Tran owned several New York City hotels that became noted for their problems with crime, building safety, and cleanliness.

Tran was born in Ha Tinh province in north-central Vietnam to a Catholic family.  He married Ngu Thi in 1950 and had four children with her. Sometime after 1954, Tran and his father were imprisoned by North Vietnamese authorities for two years.  After his release in 1958, ati age 26, Truong relocated to Saigon in South Vietnam, motivated by the need to pursue economic opportunities beyond the constraints of his northern origins.  In South Vietnam he had children with four other women.

Tran was the principal owner of the  Vishipco Line, the largest shipping company in South Vietnam in the 1970s. As a shipowner, he earned millions of dollars hauling cargo for the United States military.  His actions during the last day of the Fall of Saigon  have been the subject of debate. Tran stated that he used his company's resources, including commercial ships and hundreds of trucks, to aid in the evacuation of thousands of South Vietnamese civilians and military personnel to escape from Vietnam.  He let his ships, inclusive the Truong Xuan (with Captain Pham Ngoc Luy) carry free more than 3,000 Vietnamese fleeing Saigon after the Communist invasion.  He claimed that his ships also helped evacuate thousands of American military personnel and civilians.  Richard Armitage, the American official who oversaw the U.S. naval evacuation, disputed this as false because all U.S. military personnel had already evacuated and American civilians did not evacuate on merchant ships.

Tran left Vietnam on April 30, 1975, the day that Saigon fell to the communists.  Tran boarded one of his eleven ships and traveled to the United States with two suitcases of gold.  Truong departed Vietnam with approximately $7 million in cash and gold, underscoring the scale of wealth accuмulated.


Tran entrusted the suitcases to James Dau, a 25-year-old associate he had informally adopted in 1960, instructing him to disguise himself in ragged clothing and feign deafness and muteness to evade robbers, while using an alias to conceal his prior role as an air traffic controller.  Accompanied by one of his mistresses and her sister, the group proceeded to Saigon's port, bypassing throngs pleading for passage on Tran's vessel, and departed aboard one of his ships just before North Vietnamese troops arrived on April 30, 1975.  During the voyage, Dau concealed the assets inside the ship's exhaust system to safeguard them from potential threats.  The ship first reached the Philippines, followed by Guam, where refugees were processed; from there, Tran and his party continued to Arkansas, depositing the cash and gold in a bank to secure their holdings upon U.S. arrival.  This maritime exodus, leveraging Tran's shipping expertise, enabled him to preserve capital that later funded his American ventures.  This information derives primarily from Dau's 2012 Manhattan Surrogate Court testimony and Tran's own account, which emphasize the perils of robbery and regime change without independent corroboration of exact asset values.

Tran began his hotel business in New York City in 1975, first with the Hotel Opera, a single-room occupancy, on the Upper West Side in Manhattan. and then Hotel Carter in 1977, in Midtown Manhattan (Times Square), a purchase which also included Hotel Lafayette, in Buffalo, New York.  For the Hotel Opera he paid $1.1 million, with a reported 30 percent cash down payment and the remainder mortgaged over 15 to 20 years. In October 1977, he purchased the 640-room Hotel Carter in Times Square for $1.5 million, providing a down payment of about $300,000 and financing the balance via a mortgage. Through the years, there were many other real estate holdings.

 
Hotel Carter went on to develop a reputation as America's "dirtiest hotel" (pictured above).  Subsequent investments followed a pattern of targeted acquisitions in high-traffic Manhattan locations using minimal upfront cash and debt financing. He expanded to include properties like the Kenmore Hotel on East 23rd Street and the Times Square Hotel, operating them as budget accommodations catering to transients and tourists despite chronic issues such as poor maintenance and crime.  This approach prioritized cash flow generation in prime real estate over property upgrades, with the Hotel Carter alone yielding high profitability amid Times Square's volume-driven demand. Tran purchased the Hotel Kenmore on 23rd Street in 1985 for $7.9 million. The hotel was seized from Tran by the US Marshals Service in 1994 because of deplorable conditions and rampant drug crime within the building; this was the largest federal seizure of property related to drug charges in U.S. history.  In 1988, he purchased the Times Square Hotel; the hotel was seized by the city in January 1990 for its numerous safety code violations. 

Properties like the Kenmore Hotel on East 23rd Street were described by the FBI as a "virtual supermarket for crack cocaine," with thieves and dealers freely operating due to reduced security; federal authorities seized the Kenmore in June 1994 amid drug-related probes, marking a major intervention in his operations. Over nearly 16 years, city officials issued hundreds of health and safety violations for issues including buildings reeking of garbage and urine, with new citations accuмulating despite prior fixes, indicating persistent neglect that exacerbated urban decay and tenant risks across holdings like the Carter, Opera, Longacre, and Lafayette.  These operational shortcomings contrast sharply with his financial gains, suggesting a pattern where profit maximization compromised public welfare and regulatory compliance.

In 2007, Tran began to suffer from cardiovascular disease.  He died on May 6, 2012 without a will to clarify paternal or spousal ties.  Tran maintained multiple concurrent and sequential relationships with women, resulting in a large family structure that included at least 14 children from four wives, according to accounts from family members involved in estate disputes.  He reportedly rotated living arrangements among these women and their offspring in his New York City hotels, such as the Hotel Carter, fostering a non-traditional household dynamic.  Other reports describe relationships with up to five or six women, yielding at least 16 children, though exact figures remain contested amid legal claims.  Legal filings highlight non-marital children from earlier and later unions, including alleged sons and daughters from purported prior marriages in Vietnam, underscoring the opacity of his marital history due to cultural differences and lack of docuмentation.  Tran's complex family life led to a protracted legal battle over his $100 million estate.  Following his death, control of properties like the Hotel Carter passed to heirs amid legal disputes, with the hotel eventually sold in 2015 for $191.8 million after renovations.