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Author Topic: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc  (Read 153910 times)

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Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #355 on: June 08, 2026, 01:41:03 AM »
Quote from: Persto on June 07, 2026, 05:00:41 PM
Doesn't exist.  No photo at the altar saying a NO.


He would not receive the gifts in the Novus Ordo if he was not participating. It is called communion in Sacris.

Do you want me to post the letter of him repenting of his traditionalism...
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Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #356 on: June 08, 2026, 01:41:46 AM »
Thuc cultists having a meltdown everytime I mention simple facts is very revealing.
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Offline trento

Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #357 on: June 08, 2026, 04:33:53 AM »
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Offline Persto

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Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #358 on: June 08, 2026, 01:41:04 PM »
Quote from: trento on June 08, 2026, 04:33:53 AM
That +Thuc returned to the Novus Ordo is a fact.


https://ibb.co/8nGvydbx
https://ibb.co/ksWPh9BF
https://ibb.co/93wMvCrk
https://ibb.co/PzrbP8gr
Then explain this:
In the links you provide - the first one is:

#1: Photo: of Abp. Thuc signing a paper. Caption:
TGM Thức Ký vào văn bản hòa giải. Ngày 11 thang 7 nam 1984. Anh đọc guyen do Be tren Tinh dong Me Dang Cu Chuoc cung cap.

Google translation:

Archbishop Thuc signed the reconciliation docuмent. July 11, 1984. He read the original docuмent provided by Be on the website of the Motherland Redemptorist Province.
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That photo was taken of him signing the docuмent in Carthage, Missouri.

And compare that with the Vatican's statement on Abp. Thuc reconciliation: (the very last part of the text)
https://www.tridentines.com/pages/thuc
From L'Osservatore Romano p2 Dec. 24, 1984
"The Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith has made known that in view of the Declaration presented to the Holy Father on 11 July, 1984, in which H.E. Abp. Martin Ngo Dinh Thuc publicly retracted  his previous errors including also the Sacred ordinations illicitly conferred, the Supreme Pontiff was graciously pleased to absolve him from the censures incurred.  It is to be noted that this absolution is not extended to those illicitly ordained by him."

It can't be true that he both signed the doc in Missouri, and it was presented to the pope the same day in Rome in 1984.


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Offline Persto

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Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #359 on: June 08, 2026, 01:50:42 PM »
It is a fact that the 2 sources contradict each other. 
Thank you Trento for that link.  Without the caption in Vietnamese, it would not have been possible to prove this.
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