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https://youtu.be/Ci2dxNSVs5k?t=5919
Why is the SSPV against the took consecrations?
Streamed live on May 8, 2026
1:38:46
Bp. Sanborn:
"Because they claimed that Archbishop Thuc was not in his right mind when he did the consecration of Bishop Gerard des Lauriers.  And having taken that accusation seriously, I went to France and I interviewed people who knew Abp. Thuc and the evidence is overwhelming in favor of the fact that he knew exactly what he was doing. I talked to a number of people in France and I have sworn statements from Father Barbara and Father Delmur in my files.

... They talked to him, and that they they spoke about the consecrations with him, and that he was in his right mind. Another fact that points to his right mind, is the fact that he was excommunicated,  because if you don't know what you're doing (you can't be excommunicated), it's canon law and this is the traditional canon law.

If your act is imperfect, unless your crime is imperfect because of some problem, then you're not subject to censure. But it said, and I read the docuмent in Latin, that they did a profound investigation about the consecrations of Bishop Gerard des Lauriers and the two Mexicans (Carmona and Zamora) and based on that, they (the Vatican) excommunicated him. So that's a sign.

Then I have a letter from the Apostolic Delegate to the United States saying that it's valid, and a letter from the bishop of Mobile, Alabama saying it's valid. So I mean the evidence is overwhelming, and I'm just mentioning some of it, but people will say actually those are (invalid consecrations) those that are in the Novus Ordo. So you know, and then you have Gerard des Lauriers who you know was a professor of theology in Rome. He would not know whether it was valid or not? He was an adviser to Pius XII a theological adviser to Pius XII. You know, then there's Bishop de Castro Meyer...I went down to see him. (he said) I'm not a sedevacanist, but if you're a sedevacantist, go to Gerard."

That's how he said it. And I said, "Do you think it's valid?" He said, "If it's valid for Gerard, it's valid for me. I have no problem with Gerard des Laurier." Now, that's a quote. And I came back, that was in 1985, and told the priests (SSPV) this, that maybe we should look into this because he didn't want to get involved with us."

Stephen Heiner:
Right. And if I can clarify, at the beginning you were of the opposite opinion before you started this investigation.

Bp. Sanborn:
Yes. Because of what then Fr. Kelly was saying, you know, he was denigrating it. He said oh, Our Lady would not send us such a bishop.

Stephen Heiner:
Because he consecrated some people he should not have consecrated.

Bp. Sanborn:
Definitely. I mean, I'm not defending any of his imprudences.

I mean, I'm just smiling because I'm thinking Bishop Mendes was by yes... you know, I mean, that's a whole other story...ironically the Holy Cross father who investigated the consecrations done by Bishop Mendes of then Fr. Kelly, he decided that it was doubtful because of ironically, that he was suffering from dementia, Alzheimer's he said, I have that in my files too.

Yeah. So it's ironic that it should turn out that way. So the evidence concerning Abp. (Thuc) is this Fr. Miller, he spent time in in upstate New York and Fr. Miller also actually did a whole video about it and he knew him personally. Abp. (Thuc) spoke Latin and he spoke Latin right up to...before and after the consecrations. He was very well educated.  He was educated in Rome and he was consecrated by Pius XI, I believe or no, under Pius XI he received the permission to consecrate whomever he wanted in Vietnam.  I mean he was a personality you know... but they (who say Abp. Thuc was not in his right mind, and the consecrations were not valid) don't have a leg to stand on."