Author Topic: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc (Read 156085 times)

TomGubbinsKimmage · « **Reply #280 on:** May 28, 2026, 11:10:58 AM »

So so sad that he went crazy towards the end.

Persto · « **Reply #281 on:** May 28, 2026, 01:08:10 PM »

https://jmjsite.com/speechofbpmusey4-22-85.pdf
p.31
Bp. Musey Testimony:
(When nothing could be done to help Abp. Thuc in New York under the custody of the Vietnamese- the story continues...)

" So anyway, by this time we knew what the situation was, and what it would be. I mean, it was ... we knew what the reason was. They had been trying before to get the Archbishop away from there; because naturally, they wanted to come out with some sort of a phony story that the Archbishop had recanted, had been forgiven, and all this sort of thing. So at any rate, that was the final outcome of it all. Of course, they kept him there, and then took him to Carthage, Missouri, where they have a big, novus-ordo sponsored home for Vietnamese refugees, along with a seminary, and a lot of the Vietnamese retired clergy, and displaced clergy, and so on.

189. "And there they kept him, and later put out a picture in one of the Vietnamese publications. And although the picture didn't show the Archbishop, the caption of it said that the Archbishop had been reconciled with John Paul II, and offered a Mass in Vietnamese, in which he and four or five others ( Vietnamese and an American prelate) all concelebrated, according to them. Of course, by then I can believe that this possibly happened. It probably happened that they stood the Archbishop up there, and propped him wherever they wanted him. By heavens, they had had the poor man there, by that time, already for several months."

190. "And you know, from the experience the American prisoners of war have had, ( in these cases with the Koreans and the Vietnamese and any of the other Oriental mind-control tactics that they were exposed to), you know how they work and what they do. And so anyway, they carne out with their story about that. And then later, we finally went through getting the FBI involved. They dragged around and did a lot of investigations for a while, and then finally they decided that well, they didn't have anything to go on after they talked to the Archbishop, because they also finally got in and asked him did he want to go home, or what; and he said he was happy where he was, according to their (the Novus ordo Vietnamese) interpreter.

Then again finally, another time, when that didn't produce any results, we got the city police in Carthage involved. So they went up, and they were kept waiting for several hours, so that they themselves began to get suspicious that something was going on. They wondered why they had to wait 2½ hours, or something like this. 2½ or 3 hours before they let them see the Archbishop. And when they did, they insisted that, well certainly they've done something to the man, because he was obviously drugged. And so, then they started getting more curious about it; and when they started asking more questions, the next thing we got word that the Archbishop had died."

TomGubbinsKimmage · « **Reply #282 on:** May 28, 2026, 02:39:11 PM »

All these excuses. Sob stories. Are just that.

Will never excuse the messing about with the charge that he was given.

He is the ultimate lesson in not learning to just retire when we can't understand something.

Persto · « **Reply #283 on:** May 28, 2026, 03:29:02 PM »

https://jmjsite.com/speechofbpmusey4-22-85.pdf
Bp. Musey:
"The point is that this really has nothing to do with Archbishop Thuc, anymore than to say that no one should have had anything to do with Our Lord Jesus Christ, because He ordained and consecrated that awful traitor Judas Iscariot; and consequently, He used bad judgement, and so He should be discredited and nobody should listen to the rest of the Apostles. Can you imagine saying that about Christ? Or saying such a thing about any bishop who ordained a priest or consecrated a bishop who later became a disappointment to him, a disappointment to the Church? We already had the example set. Our Blessed Lord had chosen twelve men personally. One denied he had ever heard of Him, the very man that Our Lord had made the Pope. Another betrayed him and, out of the 12 it was painfully true that only one was at the foot of the Cross, followed all the way and stood there to the end."

Persto · « **Reply #284 on:** May 29, 2026, 12:21:51 PM »

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