Author Topic: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc (Read 21464 times)

Persto · « **Reply #305 on:** May 26, 2026, 12:50:27 PM »

https://crossworks.holycross.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1131&context=jgc

Statue of Our Lady of La Vang in Áo dài at Phát Diệm Cathedral
Abp. Thuc and La Vang
During the migration of Northern Vietnamese Catholics to the South in 1954, some Catholics chose areas around La Vang to build a community. On December 8, 1954, the statue of Our Lady of La Vang was brought from Tri Bun back to the holy shrine. The Vietnamese Bishops Conference chose the church of Our Lady of La Vang as the National Shrine in honor of the Immaculate Conception. The Church at La Vang was named a national Marian center of pilgrimage in 1959.

In particular, Archbishop Thuc devoted great effort to La Vang, the place where the Virgin Mary appeared, the most sacred place for Vietnamese Catholics. He expanded and beautified the La Vang area into a national-level pilgrimage center. He earnestly requested the Holy See to elevate La Vang Church to the status of a basilica, a prestigious title that affirms the sacred importance of this place in the life of faith. At the same time, he founded the monthly magazine Our Lady of La Vang, a collection of Catholic writers, recording testimonies, stories and teachings of Mother Mary, creating a living source of information that spread throughout the parishes.

La Vang became the National Marian Center of Vietnam on April 13, 1961. Pope John XXIII elevated the Church of Our Lady of La Vang to the rank of a minor basilica on August 22, 1961. On this same date, Bp. Ngô Đình Thuc announced the decision of the Southern Vietnamese Bishops Conference that from that time on, La Vang would be the Mother’s home for the Vietnamese Catholics and a national pilgrimage center.

Persto · « **Reply #306 on:** May 26, 2026, 12:52:48 PM »

La Vang Shrine

Persto · « **Reply #307 on:** May 26, 2026, 01:40:51 PM »

https://jmjsite.com/speechofbpmusey4-22-85.pdf
p.5
T!E SPEECH OF BISHOP GEORGE MUSEY,TO THE CMRI, ON THE EVE OF HIS ACCEPTANCE AS THEIR NEW BISHOP, APR 22, 1985

Bishop (Thuc) didn't just happen to leave Vietnam, and it wasn't really the Communists who drove him out personally. It was none other than Paul VI who insisted that the Archbishop come to the Council. " 23. "When the Archbishop went from Vietnam under protest, that if he left he would not be able to return to Vietnam, ( because the Communists then would not let him back in. They obviously wanted to get him out of the country ); and so Paul VI pulled exactly the same stunt on Archbishop No-Diem-Thuc that he had pulled on Cardinal Mindzenty, God rest his holy soul. This was to assure them that they would not be replaced, and they would remain in their See, in possession of their See, ( and if you remember, he had made a pledge to Cardinal Mindzenty, the Primate of Hungary, that he would not be replaced by a man of the Communist choosing; or a man of whom the Communists approved - which of course is necessary in these Iron curtain countries; and which carne about by the Ostpolitik generally headed up by Cardinal Trini (7) from Vienna, and our good friend Cardinal Ratzinger, who is presently head of what used to be at one time the Holy Office there. ) " 24.

"And the idea, then, of the fact that any bishop, of any See, in fact any practicing cleric, in these Iron Curtain countries has to have the approbation of the Communist government; and especially the Primate of these countries, or any man in an important See in those countries, has to be one of whom the Communists approve. Obviously, the Communists are not going to approve of an anti-communist prelate. Consequently, they aren't going to approve of a true catholic prelate.

So Paul VI simply deceived Cardinal Mindzenty, promising that he would not appoint a new Primate of Hungary. Basically, he did the same thing to Archbishop Thuc; commanded that he leave Vietnam and appear at the Council, and then of course replaced him in his See with a man friendly to the communists, and approved of by the communists." 25." It was certainly no coincidence that Archbishop Thuc was ordered out of Vietnam by the Vatican, arriving in the Vatican only a day before his brother the President, and another brother of his that was αssαssιnαtҽd along with the President, that the two of those met their death by the assassins, with the collaboration, unfortunately, of the C.I.A. And Bruce Cabot Lodge having been involved up to his elbows in that particular bloody massacre. Archbishop Thuc, then, was involved in the Council, of course; and he along with several of the other conservative ( or truly Catholic prelates ) did what they could to resist the onslaught of the Modernists and other heretics who were taking over the Council; and made their particular stand - much of this finally winding up being coordinated by Archbishop Lefebvre."

TomGubbinsKimmage · « **Reply #308 on:** May 26, 2026, 01:43:44 PM »

All in vain because he threw out his traditionalism towards the end.

Persto · « **Reply #309 on:** May 26, 2026, 02:38:41 PM »

https://jmjsite.com/speechofbpmusey4-22-85.pdf, (p10)
Bp. Musey (1985):
We knew when the Archbishop was kidnapped later, that when the Novus Ordo group kidnapped the Archbishop, and got him back under their auspices, well we knew immediately why they wanted to, and what would come out later. And surely enough, when the Archbishop died, that did come out:

They said now he recanted and wrote a letter begging John Paul to forgive him fer having consecrated new bishops, and having declared that the Holy See was vacant; and having declared that John Paul and his predecessors since Pius XII were impostors; and also for his declaration that the Novus Ordo Mass was invalid per se." "So all of this, they said, he apologized for in his letter, and asked his bishops that he has consecrated to all recant. In a letter to them he asked them to all recant and go into the Novus Ordo church, and such like and so forth.

Well of course, we knew that the Archbishop would never have come up with anything like this. We knew that it would be said that he did; and obviously, none of us ever received any such communication from the Archbishop. So again, this story was brought to you by the same nice folks who brought you the scandals of the Vatican millions that have been sequestered; the same nice folks who stole the Mass ! And some people say, ' Well Goodness ! Would the Vatican publicize or dare to publish something that was false??? Would they falsify the words that are supposed to be the Archbishop's words; and come out and say he recanted when he really didn't7?? And you look at them in amazement, and say, "Didn't they falsify the very words of Christ Himself in the consecration of the Mass!? And you want to know would they falsify the words of an Archbishop?!

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