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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #540 on: June 30, 2026, 09:26:30 AM »
I think the narrative of him being supported as if Hitler was "an agent" himself is what is BS. 
Agree this is probably BS.

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Yes, and ultimately my point is that these bankers like to brag about controlling people more than they can.  So they practice revisionist history and want to say that Hitler was their agent, which is probably not true.  Because their pride doesn't want to admit that they don't run the world, like God does.

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« Reply #541 on: June 30, 2026, 03:21:08 PM »

More on Abp. Thuc's Early Years
In September 1909, he entered the minor seminary in Quang Tri, beginning his journey of dedicating his life to God. Eight years later, in September 1917, he was selected to enter the Phu Xuan Major Seminary, the center for priestly training of the Hue Diocese, then under the administration of Bishop Eugen Alice, a Frenchman. A major turning point occurred in November 1919. Bishop Alice decided to send this outstanding young seminarian to Rome to study.  From the ancient capital of Hue, Ngo Dinh Thuc set out across the oceans to the heart of the global Church, where he would embark on a journey into the world of philosophy, theology, and canon law with all the passion, humility, and inner strength of a Vietnamese soul.

At the Urbaniana Missionary University, he earned his doctorate in philosophy in 1922 and went on to earn his doctorate in theology in 1926.  He also completed his bachelor's degree in humanities.

In 1922, he had the honor of meeting Pope Pius XI, a sacred privilege not granted to many, especially an Eastern seminarian from a colonial country.  At that moment, in the heart of the Holy See, a humble son of Hue stood before the successor of Saint Peter, carrying the aspirations of a young Vietnamese Church.

It is said that after finishing his studies in Rome, Mr. Thuc was invited to Paris to teach at the Sorbonne University, one of the oldest and most prestigious universities in Europe. And amidst those Western streets, a Vietnamese priest, in his simple cassock, persistently sowed in the minds of international students the eternal truths of faith and philosophy. But the path he chose did not stop at the road; it would soon lead him back to his homeland, where the mission of Moc Tu awaited him, with so many ups and downs and steep slopes ahead.

In the winter of 1925, amidst the ancient domes of Rome, Fr. Ngo Dinh Thuc was officially ordained a priest by Cardinal Van Rosum, the Prefect of the Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith, laying hands on him. At that moment, at the altar of Europe, a Vietnamese priest bowed his head and whispered his first vows, dedicating his entire life to the mission of proclaiming the good news. While his homeland was still a missionary land with so much suffering and trials awaiting him ahead. After his ordination, he continued his studies at Apolliner University for another year, and in 1927, he officially earned a Doctor of Canon Law degree, a very rare and valuable qualification in the Catholic world at the time, especially for priests of the missionary Church like Vietnam. But his thirst for knowledge did not stop there.  He continued his studies in France at the Institute Catholic in Paris from October 1927 to June 1929, where he studied under Mr. Do Van Truong

.Amidst the lights of Paris, under the modern European sky, there was a young Asian priest who still maintained his dignified, calm demeanor, living a life of religious devotion and diligently studying in the library and lecture halls. But then the call of his homeland urged him to return. In 1929, Fr. Thuc returned to Vietnam, embarking on a quiet but highly responsible mission: training the future generation of priests for the Vietnamese Church.


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« Reply #542 on: June 30, 2026, 03:27:32 PM »
What part of WWII did the US government have that was legit?

I don't want to derail a thread for this so just to clarify the U.S. was first attacked by Japan. You're saying they should have only gone to war with Japan (and not her allies too)?

Thank you and now back to Thuc...

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« Reply #543 on: July 01, 2026, 06:30:19 PM »
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From the end of 1929, he was appointed professor at the Sacred Heart School in Hue, a place that trained Catholic male students according to a model combining knowledge and morality.  By November 1929, Bishop Alexander Shabanon, the apostolic vicar of the Hue diocese, entrusted him with teaching at the Phu Xuan Seminary, one of the most important centers for priestly training in Central Vietnam. There, amidst the sound of the chapel bells ringing every early morning, Father Thuc quietly ascended the pulpit, bringing with him Western wisdom, Eastern zeal, and the profound spiritual depth of a teacher, a father, a friend, and a companion in his vocation.

He lectured on theology, philosophy, ethics, and canon law. But what people remember about him is not only his knowledge but also his exemplary life of virtue, his humble conduct, and his spirit of selfless dedication to his seminarians. In October 1933, he was appointed director of Thien Huu Providence School, a renowned Catholic private high school in Hue.  Under his leadership, Thien Huu was not only a place of learning but also a place of comprehensive education, character development, and instilling in young people a spirit of righteousness and service., it was here that many students later became priests, monks, doctors, engineers, and influential figures in Central Vietnamese society for decades. 


Not stopping there, in 1935,, he founded and became the editor-in-chief of the newspaper Sacerdos Indosinensis,, a monthly magazine dedicated to the priests of Indochina. His articles showed a broad vision, reformist thinking, yet remained grounded in tradition and faith. Through this, Father Thuc shows that he was not only an educator but also a contributor to building the theological thought and Catholic identity of Vietnam during the transitional period between tradition and modernity. The people of Hue still remember the figure of the young priest walking on the orange-covered road, his simple black cassock, carrying a briefcase, his face pensive but his eyes always bright.  He wasn't loud or boisterous, but through each sermon, each interaction, people sensed in him a profound peace, like an underground stream seeping deep into the earth, silently giving rise to life.  At that time, no one knew that this quiet priest would one day become one of the most influential bishops in the history of the Vietnamese Church, both in terms of his achievements and the painful twists and turns of his life. But in those early years, Ngo Dinh Thuc was simply a teacher of future priests, a sower of faith with all his love and hope.

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« Reply #544 on: July 01, 2026, 06:42:53 PM »
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In 1938, when Father Ngo Dinh Thuc turned 41, a major event came into his life. On January 8th of that year, the Holy See officially established a new diocese, the Vinh Long diocese was separated from the Saigon diocese, encompassing the entire provinces of Vinh Long, Tra Vinh, Ben Tre, and two districts of Can Tho province. And Ngo Dinh Thuc, the intellectual and dedicated priest from Hue, was chosen to become the first bishop of this fledgling diocese. Along with that, he was also appointed titular bishop of Sina. The news spread to Hue like a strange wind, people were moved, admired, and also secretly worried.

A man from Central Vietnam, educated in Europe and deeply attached to the court and academic life, now left the capital to go to the Southwest region, a vast riverine area. Customs and traditions were different, educational conditions and faith life were still very difficult.  But he did not hesitate. He set out with complete faith in the calling God had given him.  On May 4, 1938, at Phu Cam Church, where he was born and raised, a solemn ceremony took place, presided over by Apostolic Nuncio Anthony Drapier.  In a sacred and solemn atmosphere, Father Ngo Dinh Thuc was consecrated bishop. From that moment, a new chapter began, no longer a preacher or scholar, but a true shepherd, carrying on his shoulders a flock amidst turbulent times.  Less than two months later, on June 23, 1938, the new Bishop officially took over the Diocese of Vinh Long.  In the presence of clergy and laity, he proclaimed his episcopal motto, Soldier of Christ (Miles Christi). It was not a flowery slogan. It was a survival philosophy, an affirmation of a path of struggle not with swords and spears but with words of communion, charity and love for the Church amidst colonialism, war, and defeat. 

Upon arriving in Vinh Long, Bishop Thuc faced countless challenges. The diocese at that time lacked a solid foundation. He purchased a private house to serve as the episcopal headquarters, a place for both living, administration, and receiving guests. Every brick, every row of trees, every window frame was meticulously prepared to reflect the spirit of service and humility.  Not long after, on the full moon of August 1944, he inaugurated the Minor Seminary of Thanh Minh. When it opened, the first three classes with 15 seminarians, became the center for priestly training for the entire Mekong Delta region.

At Cuu Long, many young people were nurtured with the ideal of dedication amidst morning prayers and hours of study filled with the light of faith.  The reformed order of catechists in Cai Nhum was renamed the Order of the Brothers of Christ the King.  The nuns of the Sisters of the Holy Cross in Cai Mon and Cai Nhum were sent to study at high schools and universities so that they could return to serve more effectively. Bp. Thuc never accepted stagnation. For him, religious life also needed education, knowledge, and the improvement of character to serve people more deeply.  He also organized training courses for Catholic youth, launched the Catholic Action movement, creating a new vitality for social and parish life.


In a time when political waves and other religions were rising strongly, he steadfastly built the Vinh Long diocese into a solid fortress of faith with love, enthusiasm, and foresight.  People in the Mekong Delta at that time still passed down stories about the bishop from Hue, with his dark cassock, slender figure, deep eyes, and always open hands. He was not only a leader of the Church but also a father, a teacher, and a friend.