Author Topic: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc (Read 83255 times)

Persto · « **Reply #530 on:** June 29, 2026, 07:28:12 AM »

http://www.einsicht-aktuell.de/index.php?svar=2&ausgabe_id=178&artikel_id=1901
From: Einsicht (German periodical)

THE KIDNAPPING OF H.E. MGR. NGO-DINH-THUC
From: THE SERAPH, Sept. 1984

On January 19, 1984, Archbishop Ngo-dinh-Thuc, who was staying with the Franciscans in Rochester, New York, traveled to New York City with a group of people to be honored by former members of his brother's government, family members, and close friends. Prior to this, the Archbishop had received telephone calls from Vietnamese people. We were unable to ascertain their identities, as we do not understand Vietnamese. We can only assume that H.E. Archbishop Ngo knew these people, as he did not appear to be in any way concerned.

Long before the departure for New York, Bishop Vezelis had called Bishop Musey and suggested that he might be able to arrange for Archbishop Thuc to spend a few weeks in the south, as the cold of Rochester was preventing the archbishop from leaving his house. It was clear that a little change of scenery would do him good after the long, seemingly endless winter—he, the 86-year-old prelate.

Bishop Musey promised he would see what could be done; but we heard nothing further from him on the matter. Meanwhile, the Vietnamese called the archbishop. Bishop Vezelis spoke with one of them, who spoke very poor English and no French. His name was Mr. Truong. This man introduced himself as a friend of the Ngo family and inquired whether the archbishop could come to New York to visit the entire family. He was informed that the archbishop's health was not very good and that such a visit would be extremely difficult. Mr. Truong then suggested that he come to Rochester for a visit. This was acceptable. On January 19, Mr. Truong arrived in a limousine, accompanied by his driver, a security guard from his hotel, and his son. Archbishop Ngo was visiting this man, and when asked in French whether he knew Mr. Truong or not, he answered in the affirmative and assured us there was no reason to worry.

Mr. Truong inquired whether the Archbishop could travel to New York for the Lunar New Year. As it turned out, the Archbishop was interested in this trip. Nothing unusual was observed except for Mr. Truong's considerable nervousness. The Archbishop expressed his desire to go along. It was concluded that a short trip would do him good after the long and cold winter. And since there was no prospect of him being able to travel south to spend some time with Bishop Musey or with the Mexican bishops he had consecrated, we respected His Excellency's wish. However, Mr. Truong was informed that one of the brothers would accompany the Archbishop to attend to his personal needs and ensure his safety. Brother Francis Miller, O.F.M., traveled with the Archbishop to New York, and he was about to experience what would become a true nightmare.

After a series of visits with Vietnamese laypeople and priests, the agreed-upon time for the return to Rochester arrived. Mr. Truong tried to delay the Archbishop's departure longer under a flimsy pretext, but Bishop Vezelis insisted that the Archbishop, for health reasons, had to return to Rochester with Brother Francis. He also pointed out that the brother could only stay in New York for a few days. It now became clear that this was a genuine kidnapping. Without a doubt, this conspiracy had been planned and rehearsed for a long time. Only we, the victims and those affected, had been unaware of it. It was carried out with the help of many church dignitaries, among whom were ultimately the 'apostolic' Delegate, Mgr. Laghi, as well as the fateful and illegitimate successor of Mgr. Ngo-dinh-Thuc in his archdiocese. The details of these events still need to be gathered. A comprehensive account is to be expected in the future. It is important to mention that an alternative plan existed in case the archbishop did not go to New York. We are certain that he would then have been abducted directly from Rochester after being put into a suitable state through telephone conversations and weekend visits by Vietnamese priests. We have no new information about the archbishop's whereabouts. We initiated everything, through appropriate and legal channels, that could have facilitated his return to Rochester. However, we are not overly optimistic about achieving favorable results because Archbishop Ngo-dinh-Thuc is the brother of the former President of South Vietnam, Ngo-dinh-Diem. (...)

TomGubbinsKimmage · « **Reply #531 on:** June 29, 2026, 12:10:06 PM »

Incredulous · « **Reply #532 on:** June 29, 2026, 12:53:39 PM »

Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on June 29, 2026, 12:10:06 PM

Making smashed cabbage

TomGubbinsKimmage · « **Reply #533 on:** June 29, 2026, 04:27:58 PM »

Ladislaus · « **Reply #534 on:** June 29, 2026, 05:11:18 PM »

Quote from: MiracleOfTheSun on June 28, 2026, 09:31:44 PM

It's interesting now to see that the US involvement and 'domino theory' pretext being used were actually dismantling a Catholic country; the Archbishop and President were brothers, upholding a Catholic state, and not allowing false religions a public place.

The Pentagon Papers leaked out that the entire pretext used to enter the war (being attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin) was completely, 100%, false.

Now it seems more plausible that the US was actually working to dismantle a Catholic state under the guise of dismantling Communism. I read Bella Dodd's School of Darkness recently and this is exactly the kind of work they were up to. It's a wild world out there.

Well, to his credit at least, Lyndon B Johnson strongly opposed the plan to stage the coup against Diem.

Kennedy greenlight it, though, evidently he was under the impression that a deal had been stuck to grant Diem and others safe passage out of Vietnam. He was reportedly distraught when he learned how it had ended.

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General Maxwell Taylor noted that Kennedy physically blanched and left the room with "a look of shock and dismay... which I had never seen before"

So that was 11/2/1963 ... and on 11/22/1963, JFK died by the sword that he had lived by.

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