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Author Topic: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc  (Read 60147 times)

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Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #415 on: June 15, 2026, 08:56:37 AM »
Quote from: Lazarus on June 15, 2026, 08:54:38 AM

There is almost no one in the Thuc line who believes that the Lefebvre line is invalid.



There is now I guess. Ladislaus!
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Offline WorldsAway

Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #416 on: June 15, 2026, 09:15:04 AM »
Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on June 15, 2026, 08:56:37 AM

There is now I guess. Ladislaus!
How are you this stupid?


What Ladislaus actually said:
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So, if you look at the case only to this point ... I would concede the argument, and hold that the entire +Lefebvre line must be considered doubtfully valid.

At the end of the day, only one argument stands against this conclusion ... and it's one of several incredibly heated arguments I had over the years with Sean Johnson ... despite my attempts to enlighten him that if he took the position he did, he'd have to consider the +Lefebvre line of Holy Orders to be laboring under positive doubt.
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #417 on: June 15, 2026, 09:18:53 AM »
Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on June 15, 2026, 08:55:28 AM
The point, which is not obvious to you, but I will clarify it to those of good will, is the remnant is far more likely in Lefebvre Sacraments than in Thuc line Sacraments.
"More likely" means "not certainly" or "probable" and still means there is doubt involved.
Or....how about the "remnant" (whatever that means) is located in ALL Trad groups (i.e. sspx, resistance, Thuc, sspv, etc).  

We have a crisis in the Church, we have people trying to survive in lifeboats in the middle of the ocean, and you're the idiot who is trying to sink lifeboats while declaring that ONLY YOUR LIFEBOAT is the most sea-worthy.  That's foolhardy and uncharitable.

Stay in your lane, support the Resistance and stop attacking other Trad groups.   


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The doubt, over Thuc is not a statement of invalidity, it is simply a doubt. The Lefebvre line is far more certain 
"Far more certain" = doubt still exists.  You've just admitted there is still doubt.  Stop acting like you know everything and stop attacking other Trad groups.  
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Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #418 on: June 15, 2026, 09:21:32 AM »
A quote from Lad on this issue from that thread:

"Was Lienart a Mason?  Possibly.  Probably?

Would this effect the validity of his ordinations/consecrations?  No.

When Lienart performed the Catholic Rite of Ordination / Consecration, he was intending to DO what the Church DOES."
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Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #419 on: June 15, 2026, 09:22:25 AM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on June 15, 2026, 09:18:53 AM
"More likely" means "not certainly" or "probable" and still means there is doubt involved.
Or....how about the "remnant" (whatever that means) is located in ALL Trad groups (i.e. sspx, resistance, Thuc, sspv, etc). 

We have a crisis in the Church, we have people trying to survive in lifeboats in the middle of the ocean, and you're the idiot who is trying to sink lifeboats while declaring that ONLY YOUR LIFEBOAT is the most sea-worthy.  That's foolhardy and uncharitable.

Stay in your lane, support the Resistance and stop attacking other Trad groups.   

"Far more certain" = doubt still exists.  You've just admitted there is still doubt.  Stop acting like you know everything and stop attacking other Trad groups. 


But there isn't doubt.

I am only saying that IF there were, it still wouldnt be convincing compared to Thucs insanity.
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