Author Topic: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc (Read 156292 times)

Persto · « **Reply #365 on:** June 09, 2026, 07:02:37 AM »

https://semperfidelisetparatus.blogspot.com/2013/01/thuc-zycie-czesc-dwudziesta-ostatnia.html
Saturday, October 27, 2018
Thuc: Life - Part 20 - Continued

To the left of Bishop Thuc, we see Bishop Jacques Huynh Vân Cù. From the Thuca line. What is more interesting - a Vietnamese bishop appointed auxiliary bishop in Vietnam by Montini. (meaning he was Communist friendly, as were the enemies of Abp. Thuc and his family) Could Vietnamese bishops have access to Vietnam after all?

The photo was taken on the monastery grounds (Carthage). Bishop Thuc seems sad and intoxicated. Jacques Huynh contrary. More evidence of Thuc being drugged by his tormentors? Bishop Thuc suffered from diabetes, which also made things easier.

A lonely Vietnamese bishop, deprived of his episcopal see, family and homeland. The Vietnamese congregation appears. Isn't it obvious that it will pique his interest?

Persto · « **Reply #366 on:** June 09, 2026, 07:20:50 AM »

https://semperfidelisetparatus.blogspot.com/2013/01/thuc-zycie-czesc-dwudziesta-ostatnia.html
Saturday, October 27, 2018
Thuc: Life - Part 20 - Continued

What does John Paul II congratulate John O'Connor on?

His nephew, Francis Xavier Nguyen Van Thuan, and John Joseph O'Connor are also accused of betraying Thuc. For the sake of formality - also Józef Ratzinger and Karol Wojtyła.

Is it a coincidence that Pio Lahi, Bernard Law, Francis Xavier Nguyen Van Thuan and John Joseph O'Connor were created cardinals? Joseph Ratzinger went even higher. In the case of Thuc's nephew, a beatification process is underway. Only Jacques Huynh Vân Cùa was not "promoted". Why?

Can't we apply the words "to Thuc Verily, verily, I say to you, If the grain of wheat falls into the earth, it will not die, it will only be left alone, but if it dies, it brings forth a bountiful harvest" and "A servant is no greater than his master". He died among his enemies. Lonely and tortured. Deprived of friends and property. Do we not hear him crying deep down: "Eli, Eli, Lamma Sabbacthani?"

Francis Xavier Nguyen Van Thuan

Persto · « **Reply #367 on:** June 09, 2026, 07:40:30 AM »

Quote from: Persto on June 08, 2026, 01:41:04 PM

Then explain this:
It can't be true that he both signed the doc in Missouri, and it was presented to the pope the same day in Rome in 1984.
In the links you provide - the first one is:
#1: Photo: of Abp. Thuc signing a paper. Caption:
TGM Thức Ký vào văn bản hòa giải. Ngày 11 thang 7 nam 1984. Anh đọc guyen do Be tren Tinh dong Me Dang Cu Chuoc cung cap.
Google translation:
Archbishop Thuc signed the reconciliation docuмent. July 11, 1984. He read the original docuмent provided by Be on the website of the Motherland Redemptorist Province.
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That photo was taken of him signing the docuмent in Carthage, Missouri.
And compare that with the Vatican's statement on Abp. Thuc reconciliation: (the very last part of the text)
https://www.tridentines.com/pages/thuc
From L'Osservatore Romano p2 Dec. 24, 1984
"The Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith has made known that in view of the Declaration presented to the Holy Father on 11 July, 1984, in which H.E. Abp. Martin Ngo Dinh Thuc publicly retracted his previous errors including also the Sacred ordinations illicitly conferred, the Supreme Pontiff was graciously pleased to absolve him from the censures incurred. It is to be noted that this absolution is not extended to those illicitly ordained by him."

Persto: For more on this see posts on previous page

https://semperfidelisetparatus.blogspot.com/2013/01/thuc-zycie-czesc-dwudziesta-ostatnia.html
Thuc: Life - Part 20 - Continued
After his death, there appeared unsigned a statement in which [alleged] Thuc apologizes for his actions and asks for forgiveness. Moreover, he calls on the bishops he ordained, all those ordained by them, all those who follow them, to reject their error and reconcile with the Church and John Paul II. Moreover, this text included the recognition of V2, NOM and "especially the dignity of His Holiness John Paul II, the de facto and legitimate successor of St. Peter".

Persto: The supposed signed recantation of Abp. Thuc has never been produced. The only thing that exists is contradictory written statements concerning this recantation by the Vatican and the Carthage Vietnamese monastery, and the photo of Abp. Thuc supposedly signing a recantation.

TomGubbinsKimmage · « **Reply #368 on:** June 09, 2026, 11:54:46 AM »

Lol you people are really spinning out of control.

As soon as we point out one mad thing, you immediately jump to another supposed lack of proof. Forgetting completely that the other credible evidence of his mental illness alrady makes the new thing you produce even less credible.

TomGubbinsKimmage · « **Reply #369 on:** June 09, 2026, 11:55:31 AM »

I honestly know of no one who seriously doubts the veracity of his recantation. So you are really scraping the bottom of the barrel here.

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