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Online Pax Vobis

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Re: Augustine: Only Pray For Deceased Catholics
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2025, 04:11:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: SimonJude on November 05, 2025, 12:12:27 PM
    I specifically stated that that there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church....

    If "perfect Act of Contrition or who became Catholic by divine intervention right before the moment of death," bothers you, I suggest you read Luke 23:42-43.
    1) a perfect act of contrition is not the same as baptism; it is not the same as entering the Church.

    2) Those who became catholic "by Divine intervention" would only only be known to God, and NOT known to the Church.  We cannot pray for them as members, nor can anyone know that they converted.  
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    Re: Augustine: Only Pray For Deceased Catholics
    « Reply #16 on: November 05, 2025, 05:39:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on November 05, 2025, 03:49:11 PM
    There were plenty of validly baptised heretics in St Augustine's time... Pope Pius 12 says only those who are baptised AND profess the true faith are members of the Church.

    Rather than following your own will follow what God has taught by His Church. Multiple Popes said we should not pray for deceased non-Catholics, neither publicly nor privately as it causes a weakness in faith and scandal and promotes religious indifferentism.

    Quote from: Pax Vobis on November 05, 2025, 04:11:15 PM
    1) a perfect act of contrition is not the same as baptism; it is not the same as entering the Church.

    2) Those who became catholic "by Divine intervention" would only only be known to God, and NOT known to the Church.  We cannot pray for them as members, nor can anyone know that they converted. 
    Can. 901 A priest is free to apply the Mass for anyone, living or dead.
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