Author Topic: attending novus ordo ceremonies...help (Read 5655 times)

angelamarie2012 · « **on:** February 06, 2012, 01:11:16 PM »

I am now a traditional catholic, I have a communion for one of my cousins coming up, its nouvos ordo..do I go?

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #1 on:** February 06, 2012, 02:16:28 PM »

Quote from: angelamarie2012

I am now a traditional catholic, I have a communion for one of my cousins coming up, its nouvos ordo..do I go?

No.

Technically one more qualified might say you could if you attended passively. (Stood there with your arms folded?)

It gives scandal. It implies that you approve of the false worship. Worshiping in false religions has been condemned throughout Church history.

And they are not receiving anything other than bread. The ordination rite is invalid as is the consecration rite.

Pepsuber · « **Reply #2 on:** February 06, 2012, 03:04:01 PM »

If you want to alienate your family and lead them to think that traditional Catholics are uncharitable freaks, by all means follow Lover of Truth's advice.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #3 on:** February 06, 2012, 03:09:44 PM »

I recommend that you ask a Traditional priest and see what he says. I don't think it would be sinful as long as you didn't participate in the prayers or anything (as the SSPX says on their web-site). Still, best to ask a Traditional priest.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #4 on:** February 06, 2012, 03:17:43 PM »

Go.
Don't receive Communion.
Dress like a Catholic lady should -- long skirt or dress, sleeves, no low necklines -- and cover your head in church.
Don't participate in the Mass.
Be discreet lest anyone think you've taken on a "I'm holier than you" attitude.
If you think your boyfriend might someday become your husband, take him with you.

s2srea · « **Reply #5 on:** February 06, 2012, 03:25:19 PM »

Quote from: angelamarie2012

I am now a traditional catholic, I have a communion for one of my cousins coming up, its nouvos ordo..do I go?

Do as MaterDominici just mentioned Angela. We can still be charitable, yet not compromise our Traditional instincts by going to the Novus Ordo.

Pepsuber · « **Reply #6 on:** February 06, 2012, 03:25:27 PM »

Quote from: Pepsuber

If you want to alienate your family and lead them to think that traditional Catholics are uncharitable freaks, by all means follow Lover of Truth's advice.

I apologize, this is uncharitable. I hope my meaning got through anyway.

songbird · « **Reply #7 on:** February 06, 2012, 03:53:32 PM »

Don't go! It is not uncharitable not to go. If you are traditional, and they question why you do not attend can you answer as to why you are traditional? It gives God the chance for his Graces to work through you to them. A friend of mine, catholic, agonized over attending their only sons marriage to a Jєωιѕн lady in the Jєωιѕн temple. She did not go. She says that she never regretted it and she feels that her son got the real message. But she did agonize over it. She made the right choice. Actions speak loader then words. This will not be your first time decide what to do, but after the first time, other times will become easier. Don't fear their thoughts or feelings. You are to defend your faith and God is asking you to help Him. Was Job tested? Yes. And you to will be tested many times. Pray and begin your journey. I refused to accept my mothers marriage to a twice divorced man. A New Order priest rigged the so-called marriage. My mother excommunicated herself getting married in front of a protestant minister and was without sacraments and then she was told with the( fake )annulment came through a year later go to confession and everything would be back on track. She was not sorry. I refused to give anniversary cards and I don't sign mail, Mr and Mrs either. One may call it uncharitable which it is not! It is more charitable to give one a chance to see the truth to make heaven, then to go along with a crowd that is silent. Be courageous and use the Graces given to you at Confirmation. Defend Your Faith!!

MaterDominici · « **Reply #8 on:** February 06, 2012, 04:06:13 PM »

There's a bit of a difference between a Jєωιѕн service or a THIRD "marriage" and a N.O. sacrament. Unless you know your family is of bad will, you shouldn't treat them like they're of a different religion the week (or month) after you yourself discover Traditionalism.

Pepsuber · « **Reply #9 on:** February 06, 2012, 05:41:52 PM »

Quote from: MaterDominici

There's a bit of a difference between a Jєωιѕн service or a THIRD "marriage" and a N.O. sacrament.

And whatever one thinks of the N.O. Mass (valid or not), baptisms are a whole other ball of wax.

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #10 on:** February 06, 2012, 06:09:09 PM »

You have to stand up for the truth. The N.O. is a false religion. Mother, father, brother, sister will hate you for my sake.

Parents cannot go to their children's wedding at a N.O. either. Not going speaks volumes and could get them to reconsider. It might be the only thing that gets them to reconsider.

ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.

You tell your child not to smoke but you do what is he going to think.

They know you know the NO is invalid and evil but you show up, do they believe your words or actions?

Not popular to be uncomprimisingly Catholic these days to be sure. It got someonee crucified some time ago. Now they just crucify you on blogs. No sweat.

Do the right thing and live or die with the results.

If we lived in England in the 1540's we would not go to a Church of England Mass either. Even if we alienated the poor King in a "pharisuetical" way.

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #11 on:** February 06, 2012, 06:13:04 PM »

Quote from: MaterDominici

Dress like a Catholic lady should -- long skirt or dress, sleeves, no low necklines -- and cover your head in church.

I have edited your post to make it top rate.

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #12 on:** February 06, 2012, 06:14:32 PM »

Not just at anti-Catholic services but all the time everywhere (minus the headcover outside of a true Church if you prefer).

But if you do go, you don't want to genuflect before the piece of bread in the tabernacle.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 06, 2012, 06:32:23 PM »

S2Srea said:

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Do as MaterDominici just mentioned Angela. We can still be charitable, yet not compromise our Traditional instincts by going to the Novus Ordo.

I see you learned your "charity" from SSPX. It is not charitable to attend a Mass that is ( a ) doubtful and ( b ) displeasing to God. Remember Him? God? Yeah, this is about Him.

What is happening to this site? God is dividing with a sword here; the SSPX-ers are showing how they are becoming infected by their false theology. Now you recommend going to this egregious farce of a mass?

MyrnaM · « **Reply #14 on:** February 06, 2012, 06:47:34 PM »

Well this is what I would do; If you are a newly Traditional Catholic and just leaving the novus ordo, where many of your family and friends might still be attending, and they might not even understand yet the difference. Then I would go to my priest and ask for a dispensation to attend. He will instruct you as to how to be polite but not participate. However, we Traditional Catholics cover our head for respect of the Blessed Sacrament, and if the Blessed Sacrament is not in the Church, nor is the child receiving it, I would dress modestly and lady like but not cover my head.

Now on the other hand if you are a long time Traditional Catholic and your close friends and family know your stand, I would not go at all, but I would go to your Traditional Catholic gift store and purchase a suitable gift for the person, something that perhaps might plant seeds. Have it blessed by your true priest, that will help to have something blessed in their household. Perhaps a nice book about the Saints, a rosary etc.