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Arius, Nestorius, and the Ordinary Magisterium
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2013, 08:07:37 PM »
Quote from: Jehanne
Did any of those Catholics believe that the Throne of Peter could be vacant for 50 or more years?  What does the Ordinary Magisterium say about that?


I know we are getting off-topic here, but I thought I would also provide you this quote, Jehanne. From the Catholic Encyclopedia, in the article "election of Popes", it states:

"Between the death of Clement IV (1268) and the coronation of Gregory X (1272) an interregnum of nearly three years intervened. To prevent a repetition of so great a misfortune the pope in the Council of Lyons (1179) issued the Decree "Ubi periculum""

Notice the Church only refers to such a long interregnum as a "misfortune".


Arius, Nestorius, and the Ordinary Magisterium
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2013, 08:14:51 PM »
Quote from: saintbosco13
Quote from: Jehanne
Did any of those Catholics believe that the Throne of Peter could be vacant for 50 or more years?  What does the Ordinary Magisterium say about that?


I know we are getting off-topic here, but I thought I would also provide you this quote, Jehanne. From the Catholic Encyclopedia, in the article "election of Popes", it states:

"Between the death of Clement IV (1268) and the coronation of Gregory X (1272) an interregnum of nearly three years intervened. To prevent a repetition of so great a misfortune the pope in the Council of Lyons (1179) issued the Decree "Ubi periculum""

Notice the Church only refers to such a long interregnum as a "misfortune".



SB13,

How does the Church recover from a 50+ year interregnum?  In the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, whom does the celebrant pray for?  Doesn't it bother you that some priests (such as the SSPV, CMRI, etc.,) are altering the Canon of the Mass by omitting the Holy Father and local ordinary?  What would centuries of Catholics say to that?!


Arius, Nestorius, and the Ordinary Magisterium
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2013, 10:14:53 PM »
Quote from: Jehanne
Quote from: saintbosco13
Quote from: Jehanne
Did any of those Catholics believe that the Throne of Peter could be vacant for 50 or more years?  What does the Ordinary Magisterium say about that?


I know we are getting off-topic here, but I thought I would also provide you this quote, Jehanne. From the Catholic Encyclopedia, in the article "election of Popes", it states:

"Between the death of Clement IV (1268) and the coronation of Gregory X (1272) an interregnum of nearly three years intervened. To prevent a repetition of so great a misfortune the pope in the Council of Lyons (1179) issued the Decree "Ubi periculum""

Notice the Church only refers to such a long interregnum as a "misfortune".



SB13,

How does the Church recover from a 50+ year interregnum?  In the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, whom does the celebrant pray for?  Doesn't it bother you that some priests (such as the SSPV, CMRI, etc.,) are altering the Canon of the Mass by omitting the Holy Father and local ordinary?  What would centuries of Catholics say to that?!



This is a completely new topic from this one. If you start another discussion with your questions, we can go into it. But suffice it to say, there is nothing that says an interregnum can't be that long.