This subject has been discussed in depth on this site many times and with many links.  Have you searched this site yet for this topic?  I suggest that it would be a good idea to do so rather than  to start yet another thread on the subject of Baptism.

Can there be exceptions to Catholic dogmatic teachings of the Church?

What say you? And if you say there cannot be any exceptions, then are you a Baptism of Desire or Baptism of Blood believer? If so, then how do you square that BOD/BOB belief with your claim that there are no exceptions whatsoever to Catholic dogma?

Just so you know,.. Catholic dogma teaches that "only through the sacrament of baptism does one enter the Church" and "there is no salvation outside the Church"

The sacrament of baptism is not "Baptism of Desire", but instead is only "WATER BAPTISM", so therefore the dogmatic statement is saying "Only through WATER baptism does one enter the Church"

So of you are a BOD/BOB believer, then aren't you claiming that there can be exceptions to that infallible statement?

Looks to me like another Baited question put forth on behalf of the Dimonds and their followers

 :argue:

Neil Obstat,

Quote from: ora pro me

This subject has been discussed in depth on this site many times and with many links. Have you searched this site yet for this topic? I suggest that it would be a good idea to do so rather than to start yet another thread on the subject of Baptism.

In response to which...

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Well, then, it's great to hear that it's been settled right here on an Internet forum.

Not only does this response come with a sarcastic overtone, but it unfairly puts words into the mouth of ora pro me. All of this seems uncharacteristic of you.

In fact, ora pro me said: “the subject has been discussed”; not: “the subject has been settled”.

In any case, you should have noticed that not only does the OP by Deliveringit raise the question that you cite, but it also beds that question (and others) within a particular context. From the given context, it is not unreasonable to conclude that it was a trick question raised for the purpose of triggering yet another long-running debate in the cause of promoting Feeneyism. (Reference back to earlier posts made by Deliveringit seems to confirm that conclusion.)

As I see it, ora pro me was simply seeking to stop the wasting of time on such a fruitless exercise.

The only time that's wasted is when a member voluntarily takes his own time to make a response. If you don't want to wast your time, then why reply?

But I'm so sorry that I committed the egregious error of choosing the wrong words to use.

Please allow me the honor of rephrasing my question, to earn your approval:




Well, then, it's great to hear that it's already been discussed and this question has been answered, right here on an Internet forum.

......... Could you please provide a link to the thread and page where this question was answered, ora pro me?

Can there be exceptions to Catholic dogmatic teachings of the Church?

Because I did do a search on this question, and I have found nothing on Cathinfo that answers it. I am asking a legitimate question. If someone knows where I can find this question answered, I would like to know what the link is. Simple. Honest. Really.