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Title: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: Disputaciones on April 12, 2020, 02:49:11 PM
All that has been going on right now with the CV19 hoax makes it seem as if the End of the World is right around the corner.

The ID2020 thing definitely looks like the mark of the beast to me.

Everything is going from bad to worse, both with the Church situation and the world, with no end in sight. It all looks bleak, negative and hopeless.

Trump seems like the last glimmer of hope with the world situation. I can't believe how things would be right now if he weren't the President, but he seems to be going along too much with Fauci et al.

What happened with Vatican 2 was unprecedented and it seems to me there's no going back from something like that.
Title: Re: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: Struthio on April 12, 2020, 03:04:45 PM
For several years I have been and I am convinced that the foundation of Newchurch starting in 1958 is the abomination of desolation (Mt 24,15). The generation which did witness the abomination of desolation will not pass before our Lord returns. The captivity in Babylon lasted 70 years. The writing is all over all walls.
Title: Re: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: Disputaciones on April 12, 2020, 03:13:30 PM
For some time I have been and I am convinced that the foundation of Newchurch in the 1960s is the abomination of desolation (Mt 24,15). The generation which did witness the abomination of desolation will not pass before our Lord returns. The captivity in Babylon lasted 70 years. The writing is all over all walls.
That would put the end between 2032-39, depending on when you start counting (beginning of Vatican 2, end, or 1969, promulgation of the Abomination of Desolation itself).

Whoah, 2033 is right smack in that timeline. 2000 years after the death of the Lord.
Title: Re: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: Struthio on April 12, 2020, 03:23:36 PM
Antipope Francis declared in the 2020 Vatican State annals that "Vicar of Christ" is a historic title.

Compare the Prophetia Sancti Malachiae Archiepiscopi, de Summis Pontificibus.

(I assume the commenting words at the end are not authenic. I heard that earlier Antipopes appeared in the list as well.)

Title: Re: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: St.Patrick on April 12, 2020, 06:04:30 PM
Read La Sallette.

then the books Catholic prophecy by Yves dupont, and The prophets and our times, by Culleton.
Available on archive.org.

More prophecies about the restoration than I can possibly count.

This is definitely NOT the end times.
Title: Re: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: StLouisIX on April 12, 2020, 06:08:46 PM
 "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to Me, which will be converted, and some period of peace will be granted to the world." - Our Lady of Fatima

Venerable Bartholomew Holzhauser also spoke of a period of peace before the arrival of the Antichrist, an era which he called the Sixth Age of the Church. He wrote that this age will be the last and greatest triumph of the Catholic Church. This age which will be marked by the arrival of the Great Catholic Monarch and the Angelic Pontiff. 

The visionary Alois Irlmaier also foresaw this coming age, as well as the Great Chastisement that would have to precede it. 

"Das Lied der Linde", a mysterious German poem that, according to the user Ethelred on this site, was likely written by Holzhauser, speaks of not only our corrupt age, but also the Chastisement and the Sixth Age/Restoration after that. I learned about this obscure source and a lot about Irlmaier from reading some excellent posts from Ethelred here on CI from older threads. (Link to the full version of the poem can be found here: https://de.metapedia.org/wiki/Lied_der_Linde?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=65f950511bf8ade1bb6fca8e351907c0c29a1000-1586731577-0-AZiCzq9ze_SIL6ih_BZpEg1ijq5ijj8Q5bANOJBI-wg3JWloxAe-94OX9w2gEQjNb59sMN0wCEtNNgJZje8LkqvQXj2VKBZyKihmfpGq20uZYTWDY5hQrLJn9eKNFKS4WuwURlGj43fJLk2rFpZ4P-vW3pBqexzyovYVu4kAniUWsNz3tBiqft7pOKi7kkgRzi5cu-VM8ecvObALJ-MXE9KKbX-WaP-XzZQrAqARCcUxmCABj7rqBqr2bUSFl4oKw6jCilcHvr85C2gdlJKLf10CJLXTOS1tu9EYesHAsy1Z (https://de.metapedia.org/wiki/Lied_der_Linde?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=65f950511bf8ade1bb6fca8e351907c0c29a1000-1586731577-0-AZiCzq9ze_SIL6ih_BZpEg1ijq5ijj8Q5bANOJBI-wg3JWloxAe-94OX9w2gEQjNb59sMN0wCEtNNgJZje8LkqvQXj2VKBZyKihmfpGq20uZYTWDY5hQrLJn9eKNFKS4WuwURlGj43fJLk2rFpZ4P-vW3pBqexzyovYVu4kAniUWsNz3tBiqft7pOKi7kkgRzi5cu-VM8ecvObALJ-MXE9KKbX-WaP-XzZQrAqARCcUxmCABj7rqBqr2bUSFl4oKw6jCilcHvr85C2gdlJKLf10CJLXTOS1tu9EYesHAsy1Z)) 

Among other things, this poem speaks of a glorious 21st ecuмenical council that would take place during this coming era. This seems to corroborate Fr. Gregory Hesse's opinion that Vatican II was not a true (ecuмenical) council of the Church (an opinion that many others and myself also hold), as VII, if counted as a true council, would be numbered as the 21st council of the Church. 

There are other such prophecies, but these are the first few that come to mind that I am familiar with. 
Title: Re: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: Ladislaus on April 12, 2020, 06:17:55 PM
The visionary Alois Irlmaier also foresaw this coming age, as well as the Great Chastisement that would have to precede it.
 
Irlmaier is interesting.  He speaks about seasons being altered, where January is warm, and also some good harvests.  Then all of a sudden, two assassins take out some "great one" in the Balklans somewhere.  In response, Russia sweeps into the Balkans and into Europe ... into Italy and Germany.  St. Pius X foretold of Russians in Genoa.

This touches off WW3, and he says it will be short, last no more than either 3 weeks or 3 months (he wasn't sure, just knew it would be brief and have to do with the number 3).  During the war, it would appear that the enemies of Russia spray this yellow dust along the line to cut off the spear of the Russian advance, and then the 3 days of darkness takes place to end the war, followed by the conversion of Russia and Triumph of the Church.
Title: Re: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: Ladislaus on April 12, 2020, 06:19:15 PM
In general, Catholic prophecy is consistent that there will be a chastisement and apostasy, followed by a triumph of the Church and a period of peace for about a generation before Antichrist comes and the world ends.
Title: Re: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: Disputaciones on April 12, 2020, 08:21:18 PM
In general, Catholic prophecy is consistent that there will be a chastisement and apostasy, followed by a triumph of the Church and a period of peace for about a generation before Antichrist comes and the world ends.
But how will the Antichrist come and gain such power if there will be such a great restoration?

Not to dispel the prophecies, but just thinking out loud.
Title: Re: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: Disputaciones on April 12, 2020, 08:32:36 PM
Also, is there anything in the Apocalypse or the rest of Holy Scripture that speaks about a restoration?
Title: Re: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: Struthio on April 12, 2020, 08:37:08 PM
Also, is there anything in the Apocalypse or the rest of Holy Scripture that speaks about a restoration?

That's a pertinent question. Why be gullible with respect to all sorts of apocryphal stuff while we have canonical holy writ and fathers explaining it?
Title: Re: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: Struthio on April 12, 2020, 09:01:39 PM
Also, is there anything in the Apocalypse or the rest of Holy Scripture that speaks about a restoration?

Now answering the question. No there isn't. The gosples will be preached to all nations. Then there will be a great apostasy, a time of tribulation as has never been before, and the return of the Lord.
Title: Re: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: Ascetik on April 12, 2020, 10:26:39 PM
This is the best and most comprehensive list of Catholic prophecies on our times and the future times to come I have found on the internet.

https://greatmonarch-angelicpontiffprophecies.blogspot.com/

It's run by E. A. Buccianeri who lives in Fatima, Portugal.
Title: Re: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: Croixalist on April 13, 2020, 02:21:17 AM
Now answering the question. No there isn't. The gosples will be preached to all nations. Then there will be a great apostasy, a time of tribulation as has never been before, and the return of the Lord.

There are many unfulfilled prophecies such as Isaiah 45:24 "every knee shall be bowed to me, and every tongue shall swear." While King Cyrus did allow the Jews to return to Jerusalem and begin to rebuild the temple, he did not live to see its completion. Same goes for Zerubabbel. Yet, certain passages addressed to these men seem to indicate a more glorious restoration.

In Psalm 17:7, King David begins with "In my affliction I called upon the Lord, and I cried to my God: And he heard my voice from his holy temple: and my cry before him came into his ears..." and proceeds to describe a divine punishment which did not occur during his lifetime.

Christ Himself left something of a riddle when He spoke of the Elijah who would "restore all things" (echoed in Pope St. Pius X's motto).

I don't think it would be stretching the metaphor to say that the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart could easily be seen as a sort of wedding feast on Earth in anticipation of when the Groom shall take His bride back with Him to Heaven at the Second Coming. It's fitting that such a feast would have been prefigured in Cana where Christ began His miracles and His ministry. That Christ reserved the best wine for His Church for the penultimate moment before the AC.

By the end of the New Testatament there are a few major figures who are often thought to represent Christ himself, though there is room for interpretation in light of some contradictory contextual details: the White Horseman and the "man child" destined to rule with an iron rod.

By venerable Holzhauser's interpretation, the 7 Churches in the Apocalypse also represent different eras within Church history. According to him, the Church of Philadelphia would be a time presided over by a Great Monarch and Angelic Pope. Note here that "Philadelphia" will be  "kept from the hour of temptation,  which shall come upon the whole world" which so often confuses certain Protestants into believing in a pre-Final Judgement Rapture.
Title: Re: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: Pax Vobis on April 13, 2020, 08:53:56 AM
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Also, is there anything in the Apocalypse or the rest of Holy Scripture that speaks about a restoration?
Not directly, but the Church Fathers wrote volumes and volumes on the "end times" (which includes our time), and they all agree that there are certain things which must happen before anti-Christ comes.  I gather this comes from oral Tradition and the Apostles than Scripture, because if you remember, there was NO scripture until the 400s.  So all the Church Fathers had was what they learned from the Apostles.
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Here are 3 things which haven't happened, but will, before anti-Christ comes:
1.  The gospel will be preached to the whole world, and all nations will proclaim Christ.
2.  Return of Holy Roman Empire, the 3rd iteration.  (This ties into the Holy Monarch, since 95% of the world right now is not a monarchical govt).
3.  St Paul's prophecy of the "great falling away" where the once 100% catholic world (save for some joos) will apostasize and follow the 'man of sin'.
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But how will the Antichrist come and gain such power if there will be such a great restoration?
In my view, there's a general and a specific answer to this question.  The general answer is that human nature is weak, the memory is short and (as history has shown us) when God grants civilizations "good times" of plenty, peace and prosperity, then these civilizations become pleasure-seeking, sinful and lukewarm in religion. 
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The specific answer is shown by the recent history of America.  We came out of the horrors of WW2 and it wasn't less than 20 years later and the 1960s started a drug/sex revolution where morals were discarded on a grand scale.  We went from a society totally changed by war, and then we had the prosperity of the 1950s (the "catholic 50s") and what happened?  That generation gave into V2 and this paved the way for the greatest loss of faith the world has ever seen (which was, in my opinion, a precursor to the times of the anti-Christ).  I've talked to many, many people of that generation - some were tricked by V2; most actively wanted an "easier church" and a "less strict" moral code. 
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Many prophecies tie directly into the Apocalypse when they explain that there were 10 kings which ruled the earth and the anti-Christ corrupted 7 of them, who then defeated the other 3.  This ties into prophecies that after the Holy Monarch dies, his kingdom is split up and ruled by different kings.
Title: Re: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: In Principio on April 13, 2020, 12:46:02 PM
Some Catholic interpreters of the Apocalypse place the Second Coming and end of the world many centuries after the period of the Antichrist.  According to their interpretation, after the Antichrist reigns and is defeated, the Church will rise to a glory never seen before.  Then after many centuries, the whole world will eventually lose the faith (again), and the Second Coming and conflagration will occur without any events or indications immediately preceding it.  Fr. Sylvester Berry (The Apocalypse of St. John, 1921) and Fr. Herman Kramer (The Book of Destiny, 1955) both give this interpretation.

Whether that's how it will actually be, no one can really say.  But it seems like a well-founded interpretation, and it's encouraging to think that if we live through the time of the Antichrist, we will see the Church reign in Her greatest glory on Earth.
Title: Re: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: StLouisIX on April 15, 2020, 07:59:25 PM
There is also this prophecy from the Book of Isias that seems to be unfulfilled.

 "And he shall judge the Gentiles, and rebuke many people: and they shall turn their swords into ploughshares, and their spears into sickles: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they be exercised any more to war." (Isias 2:4) 

It seems that this could refer to the period of peace promised at Fatima, as this verse mentions that armies will longer be trained for war, and that former weapons will be turned into instruments of agriculture. The phrasing of "nation shall not lift up sword against nation" seems remarkably similar to when Christ speaks about how, during the times shortly preceding the arrival of the Antichrist, that "nation shall rise against nation" in Matthew 24:7. Both verses seem to imply that their respective events will take place on a world scale, and obviously a peace of this kind referred to in the above passage has not happened. This could also fit into the message of Akita, which mentioned that after the Chastisement no military weapons would be left for men to defend themselves with. 
Title: Re: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: St.Patrick on April 16, 2020, 11:43:17 AM
But how will the Antichrist come and gain such power if there will be such a great restoration?

Sin.
Title: Re: Are there any prophecies of a restoration before the End of the World?
Post by: songbird on April 16, 2020, 05:32:48 PM
Chapter 12 of Daniel, the Sacrifice of the Mass will end.