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Can you name a single Bishop alive today who was appointed by a true Pope who rejects Vatican II and the Novus Ordo? Obviously the traditional bishops do not count because none of them were appointed by a true Pope.
Why do you ask, Matto? What's the underlying issue?
Quote from: MithrandylanWhy do you ask, Matto? What's the underlying issue?Because I have heard from multiple people that there has to be at least one bishop appointed by the Pope who is not a heretic, otherwise the Church has failed. Father Cekada is on the other side of the argument and believes that it is not necessary as long as the independent bishops are around to keep the Church alive. But John Lane and others say that a faithful bishop appointed by the Pope is necessary and if there were none, the Church has failed.
So where is this bishop?
Don t understand the question....Is it not true that a Bishop can make another Bishop ?? CMRI , SSPV, SSPX, have Bishops who were made from Bishops Who were consecrated by PPXII....Educate me please ... Are we saying that these groups had not the authority to make Bishops in these times ??
Quote from: DirectorDon t understand the question....Is it not true that a Bishop can make another Bishop ?? CMRI , SSPV, SSPX, have Bishops who were made from Bishops Who were consecrated by PPXII....Educate me please ... Are we saying that these groups had not the authority to make Bishops in these times ??None of the traditional bishops are successors of the apostles. They have orders but not formal succession. This article from the CE explains this teaching very well, found HERE
Quote from: AmbroseQuote from: DirectorDon t understand the question....Is it not true that a Bishop can make another Bishop ?? CMRI , SSPV, SSPX, have Bishops who were made from Bishops Who were consecrated by PPXII....Educate me please ... Are we saying that these groups had not the authority to make Bishops in these times ??None of the traditional bishops are successors of the apostles. They have orders but not formal succession. This article from the CE explains this teaching very well, found HEREMaybe this is why SSPX is aggresively trying to reconcile with Rome. Wouldn't prelature give them succession?