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Offline Geremia

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Are school scandals more prevalent in Neo-SSPX schools than Resistance or sedevacantist (CMRI, RCI, etc.) schools?

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#81: Change (School Scandals):

If "opening the windows" to the modern world at Vatican II was the cause of the infiltration of moral degeneracy into the conciliar church, then it stands to reason that an SSPX opening its own "windows" to the conciliar church (and therefore the world) would suffer the same fate.

But this is precisely what is happening, as Bishop Williamson observed in Eleison Comments #260:

"The parallels between Vatican II and the recent happenings within the Society of St Pius X are so striking that these happenings could be called Vatican IIB. It stands to reason. Exactly the same seduction and pressure of the modern world that made the mainstream churchmen collapse in the 1960’s have swayed a number of SSPX members in the 2000’s, bringing the SSPX to near collapse."
https://stmarcelinitiative.com/vaticaniib/

But what is the connection between worldliness and sodomy(*), you ask?

The Apostole gives us the answer in the second half of Romans 1:21-30:

"Because that, when they knew God, they have not glorified him as God, or given thanks; but became vain in their thoughts, and their foolish heart was darkened. For professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. And they changed the glory of the incorruptible God into the likeness of the image of a corruptible man, and of birds, and of four-footed beasts, and of creeping things. Wherefore God gave them up to the desires of their heart, unto uncleanness, to dishonour their own bodies among themselves. Who changed the truth of God into a lie; and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature. And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts one towards another, men with men working that which is filthy, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error. And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness, full of envy, murder, contention, deceit, malignity, whisperers, detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents."

The Apostle teaches us that the punishment for idolatry (and worldliness is a form of idolatry which worships creation and creature more than the creator) is unnatural vice and viciousness. 

Had there been only one school scandal, the relationship between the ever-more conciliar and worldly SSPX and the scandal would not have been made.

But when a single school has multiple scandals of this type, one starts to inquire into the causes.

Then, when a second and a third school (each in another affluent country) erupt with their own moral scandals (in those cases, consenting to immoral school policies, seemingly in return for financial aid), and all three schools' issues transpiring within a couple years of each other, I begin to see the cause (i.e., Money, affluent families, worldliness).

Finally, when I think back to the SSPX of the 1970's and 1980's (i.e., the combat troops, setting up schools in basements), and note the absence of any such scandals, I become convinced I have properly assigned the cause.

The Society has become worldly. 

Many have noted the increase in fundraising activities, branding companies, public relations firms, and the "need" to have bigger and better everything without real necessity (of which the greatest example is the new seminary in Virginia).

The recent picture of the US District office women all in pants is symbolic of this worldliness.

So long as it persists (and it will persist so long as the Society is hell-bent on finding a livable situation in the pluralist and worldly conciliar church), the schools and families will continue to degenerate. 

(*) Obitur Dictum: I have been deliberately vague regarding the details of the various moral scandals, for the sake of the pious.  Those who wish to inquire further can find more information on various Cathinfo threads using the search function.
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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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More scandals within public schools.  The scandal is everywhere. 

Best to homeschool. 

And many churches are falling apart too.  

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Are school scandals more prevalent in Neo-SSPX schools than Resistance or sedevacantist (CMRI, RCI, etc.) schools?

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Yes because there's more schools in the SSPX
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Yes, that is the only question here. When you say "Who has more of a problem" what you're really asking is, "Is there any fundamental reason why this group would have more of a problem than that group?"

And the answer is YES. How do you even define the Resistance in contrast to the SSPX? It's the group that said "No thanks, I'm staying here. I'm staying with the old attitude of +ABL towards the world and the Conciliar Church. I'm not changing."

So they are obviously LESS likely to have such issues, since they are serious about the Faith and serious about keeping the World out. They consider the World to be "dangerous Other", not to be embraced.

But does the contrary -- embracing the corrupt Modern World -- equal danger in this area? I'd have to say YES. Moral degeneracy is one of the hallmarks of the modern world.
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Yes because there's more schools in the SSPX
What about per capita?
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Of all the groups mentioned, it’d have to be the neo-SSPX simply because there are so many more of them with more students when compared with Resistance, SSPV, CMRI… 
These other groups have very schools, thus much less chance of having scandals within them. If you throw diocesan schools and public schools in the mix, then it’s fairly obvious where to find scandals. I know of two SSPV schools, one CMRI school, another two schools that are more or less independent, very small, run by a few parents with the priest as the head. Both of these cover lower grades K-4 and K-6. Both have fewer than 15 students. The majority of serious Traditional Catholics homeschool their children as there are simply no reasonable options. 
If looking to point the finger at particular traditional schools, parents have to keep in mind that the sort of scandal being alluded to here is on the increase everywhere as people move farther and farther from God. If one looks online at various “large Christian family” homeschooler shows, there are scandals in these homeschools as well. 
Parents, be very careful who you allow to access your children for homeschool. Some people have turned out to be predators.