Author Topic: Are Novus Ordo Baptisms Valid? (Read 5033 times)

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 11, 2017, 10:32:28 AM »

I was originally baptized as a Methodist in 1949. They use the Trinitarian Formula.
In 1953 I was re Baptized as a Roman Catholic conditionally.

Kephapaulos · « **Reply #11 on:** February 11, 2017, 12:07:11 PM »

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I was baptized by a priest ordained in the old rite.

It is not really relevant, since anyone can validly baptize - it does not have to be a priest. Even an atheist or a pagan can validly baptize if the proper formula is used and he intends to do what the Church does.

Even the Dimonds do not question validity of the Novus Ordo baptism.

Yes, true, but the fact that the priest who baptized me was ordained in the old rite would mean he would have more likely went by the book and not messed around with the form and matter.

I don't believe it is safe or fair toassume that priests ordained in the new rite do not intend to do what the Church does or change the form and matterr, thus invalidating the sacrament of Baptism.

I do not argue that all priests ordained in the new rite do not carry out baptism correctly, but it can be a possible higher likelihood for a priest in the old rite to especially go by the book.

songbird · « **Reply #12 on:** February 11, 2017, 04:45:09 PM »

There better be the "intention" to remove Original Sin. IMO I don't think that would be in the heart of a Marxist New Order, do you? Want to take a chance?!

For Greater Glory · « **Reply #13 on:** February 12, 2017, 10:21:54 PM »

Some years ago, Jesuit theologian, Fr. Paul Trinchard, ( R. I. P.) told us that many dioceses in the U. S. were using manuals which stated that original sin was the state of the world that the child was born into, not a condition of his soul. Needless to say, I had my two younger children conditionally baptized by Fr. Post with the SSPX.
I wouldn't trust anything in the NO. The priest and the director of religious education were going to teach Planned Parenthood sex ed to my older children, but I said "No, you're not." and pulled them out of CCD.