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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Archbishop Vigano Accused by the Vatican of the Crime of Schism
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2024, 07:11:37 PM »
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If he submits, and plays along, it's a bad sign. A really bad sign. For this one action will speak far louder than any of his multifarious words. It will prove him for once and for all.
:confused::confused::confused:  What are you talking about?  Whether he's sedevacantist or not has nothing to do with the accusation from new-rome.

Even if he believes that new-rome is in a sedeprivationist state (i.e. still has natural, temporal authority...which is the most likely scenario), then submitting to their natural/legal authority is wise (and an obligation).  But any spiritual/theological authority they "impose" is null and void because it will be based on V2/new-age/humanistic errors.

Thus, as St Thomas Moore did, he submitted to the (nefarious) authority of King Henry VIII, when the King called him (legitimately) to a court hearing.  But St Thomas did not submit (and refuted) the King's authority to compel him to accept the heresy of Anglicanism.

The difference between authority/summon (presence) and the authority/accept (heresy/facts), is quite distinct in the law.  Your error is you fail to distinguish.

Offline Meg

Re: Archbishop Vigano Accused by the Vatican of the Crime of Schism
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2024, 07:11:55 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/live/KIxIJyyp2vg?si=veOMYm6tUp2CRQze


Taylor Marshall is spinning that Vigano's charges are because of the McCarrick report by the Archbishop.

It seems everyone has forgotten to mention what Archbishop Vigano said last week about Bergoglio.....

"I replied to him: « Holy Father, I don’t know if you know Cardinal McCarrick, but if you ask the Congregation for Bishops, there is a dossier this big. He corrupted generations of seminarians...»
Bergoglio remained impassive and completely changed the subject.


His reaction is not surprising. Bergoglio himself committed the same abuses when he was Master of Novices of the Society of Jesus in Argentina, as personally confided to me by one of his former novices."

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This^
Must be the reason they brought these charges against him now.
They can't let this narrative continue and had to shut it down.
I don't think it had anything to do with McCarrick. We've been hearing about all of this filth since Boston and Cardinal Law and no aggressive action was taken against any whistleblowers


You may be right. It does seem more than just a coincidence that the Vatican is going after +Vigano shortly after he makes that statement about 
Bergolio and the abuse of seminarians in Argentina. 


Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Archbishop Vigano Accused by the Vatican of the Crime of Schism
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2024, 07:29:21 PM »

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Taylor Marshall is spinning that Vigano's charges are because of the McCarrick report by the Archbishop.
The reason "why" is irrelevant.  What matters is the "what" of the charges.

Offline Mark 79

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Re: Archbishop Vigano Accused by the Vatican of the Crime of Schism
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2024, 09:22:18 PM »
…Barfly Bergolio…
This is the first I have heard this charge. Is the sodomite heretic enabler also an alcoholic?

Re: Archbishop Vigano Accused by the Vatican of the Crime of Schism
« Reply #39 on: June 21, 2024, 02:35:51 AM »
This Ann Barnhardt article has plenty of information that could explain why Bergolio doesn't ever visit Argentina https://www.barnhardt.biz/2018/09/12/nuclear-bombshell-argentinian-whistleblower-interview-bergoglio-allows-the-catholic-elite-in-rome-to-have-access-to-gustavo-veras-child-sex-slaves/ 

Natasha Jaitt died a year after these interviews.