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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Archbishop Vigano Accused by the Vatican of the Crime of Schism
« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2024, 02:07:44 PM »
Quote from: josefamenendez on June 20, 2024, 06:56:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/live/KIxIJyyp2vg?si=veOMYm6tUp2CRQze


Taylor Marshall is spinning that Vigano's charges are because of the McCarrick report by the Archbishop.

It seems everyone has forgotten to mention what Archbishop Vigano said last week about Bergoglio.....

"I replied to him: « Holy Father, I don’t know if you know Cardinal McCarrick, but if you ask the Congregation for Bishops, there is a dossier this big. He corrupted generations of seminarians...»
Bergoglio remained impassive and completely changed the subject.

His reaction is not surprising. Bergoglio himself committed the same abuses when he was Master of Novices of the Society of Jesus in Argentina, as personally confided to me by one of his former novices."
^^^^^^^^^^

This^
Must be the reason they brought these charges against him now.
They can't let this narrative continue and had to shut it down.
I don't think it had anything to do with McCarrick. We've been hearing about all of this filth since Boston and Cardinal Law and no aggressive action was taken against any whistleblowers

Except he made that accusation on May 29th and according to the "Decree" they started the excommunication/trial process on May 10th.  
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Offline josefamenendez

Re: Archbishop Vigano Accused by the Vatican of the Crime of Schism
« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2024, 03:52:12 PM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on June 21, 2024, 02:07:44 PM
Except he made that accusation on May 29th and according to the "Decree" they started the excommunication/trial process on May 10th. 
Ohhhh......  didn't see the dates. Thanks
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Archbishop Vigano Accused by the Vatican of the Crime of Schism
« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2024, 04:37:03 PM »
Quote from: josefamenendez on June 20, 2024, 06:56:36 PM
Taylor Marshall is spinning that Vigano's charges are because of the McCarrick report by the Archbishop.

Good.  This will ensure that the media coverage will dredge up the old history of Bergoglio / McCarrick, leading to the implication in those who are not theologically astute (i.e. 99.9% of the general public) that this entails Bergoglio engaging in retribution for the McCarrick situation.  I mentioned that this would be the smart play.  This will make Bergoglio look even more complicit in the coverup of McCarrick's predations and will bring those back into the news.  Most people don't understand the finer points of Catholic theology (schism, SVism, Traditionalism, etc.), so they'll view this situation from a political perspective.  I know that a lot of Prots online can't stand Jorge due to the wokism he promotes, and they'll view it as the Leftist/Commie pope taking it out on someone on the Right.
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Offline Soubirous

Re: Archbishop Vigano Accused by the Vatican of the Crime of Schism
« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2024, 07:27:57 PM »
Quote from: josefamenendez on June 21, 2024, 09:23:52 AM
Do you think publicly accusing the Pope of acts of sodomy had nothing to do with the charges?
 That's what I was saying. We all know Frankie doesn't give a poop about the Church.

Of course, I totally agree that this is personal payback against Vigano.

My point was that Bergoglio's not a blunt lug, he's a shapeshifter. He'll play it from every angle he can then when someone calls it out, he'll spin another web. If he really wanted to prosecute "schism" (/s) there's a long list being ignored right now from Germany to India and elsewhere.

The what and the why both do matter to observers and to Vigano and his canon lawyers. Yet note that this will be an extrajudicial trial, so the Vatican henchmen are playing it as an open-and-shut case. That's what Vigano meant when he said the verdict was already decided against him in advance.
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Offline Soubirous

Re: Archbishop Vigano Accused by the Vatican of the Crime of Schism
« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2024, 07:57:05 PM »
Quote from: Mark 79 on June 20, 2024, 09:22:18 PM
This is the first I have heard this charge. Is the sodomite heretic enabler also an alcoholic?

He worked as a nightclub bouncer in Buenos Aires way back when.
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