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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Archbishop Vigano Accused by the Vatican of the Crime of Schism
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2024, 11:17:03 AM »
Quote from: Meg on June 20, 2024, 10:22:27 AM
In the article linked to in the OP, on the 4th paragraph from the bottom, +Vigano writes:

"Fifty years ago, in that same palace of the holy office, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was summoned and accused of schism for rejecting Vatican ll. His defense is mine; his words are mine."

Actually, Archbishop Lefebvre, when summoned to the Holy Office, maintained his loyalty to the Pope in his defense. He did so again in written communications. So, Vigano's defense is not the same as Archbishop Lefebvre.

I'm pretty sure he's referring to the charges of schism, where +Lefebvre turned it around them and said they're the one's in schism.

What are you blabbering about here with "Loyalty to the Pope"?  +Lefebvre was clearly being "disloyal" in rejecting V2 and the Modernist reforms?  +Lefebvre was loyal to the Papacy but not to the "Pope".

This is more of your psychological issue with +Vigano's SVism.  Both SVs and R&R are "disloyal" to the putative Pope but loyal to the Catholic Papacy.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Archbishop Vigano Accused by the Vatican of the Crime of Schism
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2024, 11:19:41 AM »
If +Vigano were smart, he'd try to spin this as retribution for having blown the whistle on Bergoglio's coverup of sex crimes by the hierarchy.
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Offline Giovanni Berto

Re: Archbishop Vigano Accused by the Vatican of the Crime of Schism
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2024, 11:24:46 AM »
Quote from: Godefroy on June 20, 2024, 08:31:13 AM
This seems to the summer of major events. The SSPX announcing the neccessity to consecrate bishops, Rome planning to ban the True Mass and now Archbishop Vigano accused of schism.

These events are probably connected. Let's wait and see if something big actually happens.:popcorn:
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Offline Seraphina

Re: Archbishop Vigano Accused by the Vatican of the Crime of Schism
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2024, 12:08:42 PM »
In reality, Vignano is “guilty” of criticizing Pope Francis.  That is different from schism.  Wait until the kangaroo court date.  There, present the evidence.  Excommunication by Borgoglio & Co. is invalid, an honor, and releases Vignano to take certain actions heretofore unavailable to him.  
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Offline Meg

Re: Archbishop Vigano Accused by the Vatican of the Crime of Schism
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2024, 12:11:13 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on June 20, 2024, 11:17:03 AM

What are you blabbering about here with "Loyalty to the Pope"?  +Lefebvre was clearly being "disloyal" in rejecting V2 and the Modernist reforms?  +Lefebvre was loyal to the Papacy but not to the "Pope".

Archbishop Lefebvre clearly expressed his loyalty to the Pope as the main part of his defense when summoned to the Holy Office. Perhaps you don't want anyone on this forum to be reminded of that. So you will lie about it, as usual. 
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