That’s nonsense.  The Conciliar Church is no mere spirit or attitude or mindset.  It was made concrete, a new religion with its new doctrine, new public worship, new Sacraments, and new saints such as Paul VI, the founder of the new religion.

And I asked you whether you agree with all the statements made by Archbishop Lefebvre, including that Rome is in apostasy.

Xavier, how can you insist that the Conciliar Church is just a different mindset? Look at any diocese in the world today. Whenever there is a Latin Mass in the area, that church is full. 

They recognize the need for Catholic liturgy and Catholic theology that doesn't put the Lord second and fallen, sinful man first. In an ocean of heresy, schism and sacrilege, Rome is drowning while tradition will stay afloat. The Latin Mass is the life-vest that will guide Catholics to Holy Mother Church.